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That is good to know, but I didn’t see any signs of uronema. Else I would have treated it. I pretreated my anthias because I know they are prone to it but didn’t think to treat the angels and clown. Ugh. I swear, this hobby.

I am finding on more than one occasion lately that what I have been doing for the last 8-9 years is either wrong or inadequate. Reefing has taught me a lot. I just wish the lessons could be a little bit less harsh sometimes.
 

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I am finding on more than one occasion lately that what I have been doing for the last 8-9 years is either wrong or inadequate. Reefing has taught me a lot. I just wish the lessons could be a little bit less harsh sometimes.
Yeah, fish disease drives me insane. Its like I don’t want to put all the fish thru all these treatments with no symptoms but if I don’t, I run the risk of losing them or them wiping out my entire livestock.
 

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Yeah, fish disease drives me insane. Its like I don’t want to put all the fish thru all these treatments with no symptoms but if I don’t, I run the risk of losing them or them wiping out my entire livestock.
Yeah, I always followed a defined protocol. If the particular type of fish was intolerant to that protocol I would pass on it. But the possibility that the QT tank itself may be providing the pathogen means that maybe a broad-spectrum antibiotic should be used every time we stress a fish by placing it in a QT tank. Just thinking again. Kinda like catching the flu by going to the hospital for something else.
 

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Yeah, I always followed a defined protocol. If the particular type of fish was intolerant to that protocol I would pass on it. But the possibility that the QT tank itself may be providing the pathogen means that maybe a broad-spectrum antibiotic should be used every time we stress a fish by placing it in a QT tank. Just thinking again. Kinda like catching the flu by going to the hospital for something else.
All my QT are sanitized with vinegar and dried out between use. I think I will get some general cure and start with food soaked in it plus focus to bind it. This should cover my base.
 

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All my QT are sanitized with vinegar and dried out between use. I think I will get some general cure and start with food soaked in it plus focus to bind it. This should cover my base.
Just to be clear for discussion, what I am talking about is not coming from the QT tank or equipment but from the sponges, marine pure blocks, matrix, and other biofilters that come from the display tank that we seed for use as biofilters in QT setups. Pathogens like uronema and vibrio don't require fish to exist. But they can kill fish. They are also an important part of nature's cleanup crew. They exist in our tank even if we quarantine all of our fish. They come in on coral, rock, and even food. In mature tanks, the biodiversity keeps them in check with competition and predation. In an immature tank, like a QT tank, they can dominate the microfauna if introduced without enough countering biodiversity. The protocols I followed always required anti-biotics, like General Cure, to prevent secondary infections after de-worming. So they inherently took care of this potential issue. My suggestion, for discussion, is that we use something like General Cure every time we put a fish in a QT tank even if only for observation.
 
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