Website Shutdown and Restoration Saturday, January 16th at 9am.
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This is true, however no current board members were involved in making the decision to do so. Adam was only there when they were trying to clean up the mess made by the previous board.
Gotcha gotcha.
I haven't been active lately. I only ever had good interactions with Jin, so I should hope he comes around and does what is right. I hope this can all be resolved for the sake of the club. Good lucks guys
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You and I both...
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All I’m going to say regarding the allegations lodged at me. Supporting members can read this. https://atlantareefclub.org/boards/index.php?threads/i-screwed-up.1176040/#post-1272354
if this was the issue it was made out to be then why did Jin wait until now to address it? 9 months later? Lol.
if this was the issue it was made out to be then why did Jin wait until now to address it? 9 months later? Lol.
turbomalum
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Out of respect of all us past member here who have donated plenty to the club, it may be worthwhile to make this public if you're really trying to clear your name.
Umm - I actually did that - although it took a LOT of back and forth with Brett (the spender of the $17,000 eugene keeps referencing) - who eventually just gave up and bailed completely on the club.
Every single BoD member and all trustees had full access to ALL passwords from day 1 and never, ever were unable to log in to anything club related. Several people were superadmins on the site. There was a dev site for testing (at no cost), none of you were ever blocked, security and functional patches and updates were tested and installed on a regular basis etc. The entire cost to the club was $50 per month for a virtual server dedicated to and fully under the name of Atlanta Reef Club. Multiple daily backups were taken and made fully available to anyone with credentials that the entire BoD and Trustee list had access too.
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I agree, it seems there needs to be more transparency between the bod and the general body about what's happening behind "the veil" to encourage more accountability. I do believe what happened with Shawn was an honest mistake.
@Shawn you have always been honorable, trustworthy- and you have gone above the call of duty, helpful, etc to your fellow reefers. Everyone can make a mistake, but it takes honor and integrity to admit to it publicly and fix it as you did. No worries.
@FutureInterest Jin I have enjoyed knowing you and seen everything you have done to help with this club and everybody have done for your fellow reefers. When you left to attend much more important family matters in this horrid pandemic, totally get it and totally understand. The offer you made is generous. I hope that you and the ARC community can come to an amicable agreement to transfer control of the website to a third party Webhosting platform with complete transparency and control-ability by the ARC active membership in charge of website matters.
I can understand and feel Jin’s pain in turning over something he has nurtured like a child- I had to do something similar for a website and organization I developed for my kids school. I get it. But the beauty of a nonprofit club and organization website is that hopefully it survives you and continues to grow and flourish, and that the roots you planted and give it strength to survive without your hard work and daily oversight. Makes things easier for you and you can enjoy and reap the benefits of having contributed so much to a community.
Wish there was a way for everyone to get along. Too much tragedy and sorrow in the world right now to have this issue clouding one of the few bright spots in our world.
@FutureInterest Jin I have enjoyed knowing you and seen everything you have done to help with this club and everybody have done for your fellow reefers. When you left to attend much more important family matters in this horrid pandemic, totally get it and totally understand. The offer you made is generous. I hope that you and the ARC community can come to an amicable agreement to transfer control of the website to a third party Webhosting platform with complete transparency and control-ability by the ARC active membership in charge of website matters.
I can understand and feel Jin’s pain in turning over something he has nurtured like a child- I had to do something similar for a website and organization I developed for my kids school. I get it. But the beauty of a nonprofit club and organization website is that hopefully it survives you and continues to grow and flourish, and that the roots you planted and give it strength to survive without your hard work and daily oversight. Makes things easier for you and you can enjoy and reap the benefits of having contributed so much to a community.
Wish there was a way for everyone to get along. Too much tragedy and sorrow in the world right now to have this issue clouding one of the few bright spots in our world.
I didn't sign up for all of this drama. Don't want it; don't need it. Right about now I just want to quit and leave whoever is left to fend for themselves, I'm not 14 and haven't been for a long time. However, I did agree to help do what I can (in large part do to Jin's enthusiasm and excitement about the hobby). I've been around long enough to remember what a great guy @acroholic was and still miss him being around. As a current BoD member, here's my comment(s):
- We thought the BoD should have access to the ARC website. Period. In Jin's email, he readily admits that we don't have it. I'm not worried about it at all but still think more than a single person should be able to access the back end of the website. Am I crazy or melodramatic? We've been asking for the credentials, which he readily admits we don't have, for months. We didn't want to make this a public issue, we look like a bunch of petulant children. So, my question to you all is this - Are we being unreasonable by wanting the current BoD to have access to the ARC website? Heck, maybe we are but it seems like a pretty reasonable ask to me. I'm still shaking my head wondering how the hell it got to this point.
- Shawn bought a Trident and used the wrong card. In the old post I point out that I do the same with my personal/business cards. He paid it back immediately and reported it just as quick. This bit about Shawn having to "struggle with cash flow" is just, well, I don't know what it is. Low? Petty? The exct kind of drama we don't want anywhere near this Club?
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Well funny this should be what brings me back after 12 or so years, lol. Was just talking with the wife about setting up a small reef tank when I got the email.
Got a NUVO 10 with your name on it if you do
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There are alot of people that are no longer around anymore. Sad really. There was yuge amount of knowledge. Stuff that added great substance to the club and made it more then just a social media outlet. Just think of how many sponsers/ fish stores were around 12 years ago that are no longer today. I can name about 6-10.
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Just curious about where the ARC funded things are right now? Gift cards purchased as prizes, PAR meter, suction cups, etc? Who is in possession of these items since the change of “administration “??
Other may have more up-to-date info but here's where things are from what I understand.
- Gift certificates have all been sent out to winners.
- An ARC member has 4 of the suction cups and I'm going to get those in hand later this week for another member to use this weekend.
- Shawn has one of the PAR meters.
- Jin has one of the PAR meters as well as 2 of the suction cups.
- The donation for school tanks from the end of 2019 have been inventoried and placed in a storage unit that is in ARC's name, paid for by ARC's credit card. Except for the few heaters that I inventoried and forgot in my basement when I took stuff to the storage unit.
Of course that is the way it MUST be. As stated earlier, it should be understood that something like a website would and should outlive the creator’s tenure with the club.
if I’m reading his ramble correctly, Jin is actually advocating that he keep the credentials to, essentially, protect the club from itself? The club he openly admits to walking away from without any formal notice? And that he seems to have expected we’d magically infer that via some download from the aether?
if im not mistaken, don’t I remember a mea culpa from him for a similar abandonment last summer?
im relatively new to the club and came in after all the previous drama. Out of curiosity, I reviewed a lot of the old “dirt”, and read plenty of posts from Jin. He was the first person I met in ARC. I still have some of my “starter frags” from him in my tank. I had no reason to not like the guy.
but there is definitely a trend in his posts. He’s always the victim. Nothing is ever his fault. his ideas are always the best and smartest, and everyone else’s ideas are dumb. He uses knowledge he already has about a situation to “predict” what someone’s response will be to a situation.
the email posted above is just more of the same.
I would agree that anyone who was involved in wasting $17k of club money on a web site shouldn’t be allowed anywhere the leadership of this group. But, my god, man - let it go.
and whatever is needed to get control of the site NOW must be done. He can no longer be permitted to hold this group hostage.
and a word to current leadership... I keep “hearing” about drama. You need to add about 1000% transparency to every aspect of club management from what I can see.
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We've actually started doing that - with uploading BOD meeting videos, opening up BOD forums, and more. We can't open any more as we don't have the credentials to do so. One of the things I promised when I was elected was full transparency.Of course that is the way it MUST be. As stated earlier, it should be understood that something like a website would and should outlive the creator’s tenure with the club.
if I’m reading his ramble correctly, Jin is actually advocating that he keep the credentials to, essentially, protect the club from itself? The club he openly admits to walking away from without any formal notice? And that he seems to have expected we’d magically infer that via some download from the aether?
if im not mistaken, don’t I remember a mea culpa from him for a similar abandonment last summer?
im relatively new to the club and came in after all the previous drama. Out of curiosity, I reviewed a lot of the old “dirt”, and read plenty of posts from Jin. He was the first person I met in ARC. I still have some of my “starter frags” from him in my tank. I had no reason to not like the guy.
but there is definitely a trend in his posts. He’s always the victim. Nothing is ever his fault. his ideas are always the best and smartest, and everyone else’s ideas are dumb. He uses knowledge he already has about a situation to “predict” what someone’s response will be to a situation.
the email posted above is just more of the same.
I would agree that anyone who was involved in wasting $17k of club money on a web site shouldn’t be allowed anywhere the leadership of this group. But, my god, man - let it go.
and whatever is needed to get control of the site NOW must be done. He can no longer be permitted to hold this group hostage.
and a word to current leadership... I keep “hearing” about drama. You need to add about 1000% transparency to every aspect of club management from what I can see.
Gotta love people
My biggest question - if this issue four years ago was as big as he says, why is it just now being addressed to the membership? Why did he sit on it until now?