Acroholic's Kent Tech M Bryopsis Dosing Instructions

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I pulled this post I made from another Bryopsis thread and posted it here because lately, I have seen a lot of Bryopsis in people's reef tanks. These are folks involved in both sides of the hobby locally, and many online seller's tanks. So if anyone can benefit, here is the method I used that helped me completely eradicate Bryopsis from my 300 gallon SPS/150 gallon Chalice reef tank system 18 months ago.

Acroholic's Tech M Dosing Instructions

This is the method that worked for me. Of course, you follow these at your own risk, etc.

1. Get enough Tech M to do the job. Do not use mag sulfate or mag chloride to raise the mag level so you don't have to use as much Tech M. If you do this you are not adding the trace element or whatever is in the Tech M that actually kills the Bryopsis. Start from whatever your mag level is and raise it only using Tech M.

2. Get a quality test kit, like an Elos or a Salifert. Test every day when you are raising mag levels and when you are maintaining mag levels. Salifert test kits only read to 1500 ppm, so when you know your mag levels are over 1500, you add 1 ml of the #3 reagent and then draw up another 1 ml per the instructions. When you get the color change, reference the chart for the ppm, then add 1500 to this for the total ppm.

3. If you use them, I would eliminate the use of any Poly Filters or the like during the time you are raising the Mag level to 1800 with Tech M until the time your mag level drops to 1350 as described in step 6. Poly filters can remove metals, and since no one knows, you might remove the trace element that is actually killing the bryopsis if you use poly filters. Carbon is fine.

4. Raise your magnesium with Tech M by 100 ppm/day until you reach 1800. Test every day and maintain this level in your reef for two weeks straight. Do not do any water changes during this time. If you do water changes, then make sure you add enough Tech M to the tank to maintain the mag at 1800. The idea is to get enough exposure time at that level so whatever trace element is killing the Bryopsis has enough time to work.

The 1800 mag level is an indirect indicator of the concentration whatever trace element in the Tech M is killing the Bryopsis. Length of exposure at the right concentration seems to be the key to eliminating vs just suppressing the Bryopsis.

5. If you have a lot of Bryopsis in your tank, manually remove as much as possible when it starts to weaken and die. This will eliminate/minimize an ammonia spike that can result from the decaying Bryopsis.

6. After you have maintained a mag level of 1800 for two weeks, start doing your normal water changes. Do not do them more often that usual. You will have elevated magnesium levels for a period afterwards, several weeks probably. This is not an issue. Let the level come back to the normal 1350 or so thru regular water changes and use by the corals.

7. Possible effects on animals and corals. I had some turbo snails die in the time my mag levels were elevated. I also had some montiporas lightly bleach on me, but they recovered quickly. I lost no SPS, LPS or soft corals as a result of using Tech M in the manner I have just described.

Again, please keep in mind that the above regimen worked for me. Know that Kent Tech M is not manufactured or intended by Kent Marine as an algaecide against Bryopsis. The effect of Tech M on Bryopsis is a side effect of this product when it is used at a much higher than normal concentration, so all treatment regimens for Bryopsis by me or anyone else are based on anecdotal experience only.
 
I've got this issue in my QT right now. I didn't realize there was such a great thread out there till today. I knew that the Tech M worked but I was following the Tech M's instructions for normal Mag building. Before reading some threads on this today I was commenting to my wife that I was totally baffled at how my salinity levels had gotten so high when tested this AM. Is the salinity level really changed or is the specific gravity changed with elevated Mag levels?
I also had some hitch hikers on some live rock I got. They look like a cross between a snail and a slug but they are eating every type of algae in the tank! Including the Bryopsis. I can't get a good pic to upload. They usually come out at night. I wonder what these little buggers are so I can get a couple dozen of them! They have fairly long tentacles and almost look like they have a helmet on.
 
Seth The Wine Guy;598722 wrote:
I also had some hitch hikers on some live rock I got. They look like a cross between a snail and a slug but they are eating every type of algae in the tank! Including the Bryopsis. I can't get a good pic to upload. They usually come out at night. I wonder what these little buggers are so I can get a couple dozen of them! They have fairly long tentacles and almost look like they have a helmet on.

Seth, I have not heard of any type snail that will eat bryopsis, so I can't say you are wrong, but if you are right then you better breed those bad boys cause you have a gold mine there, hehehe! I would guess that they are eating algae or organics from the surface of the bryopsis, but I would love to be proven wrong!
 
Acroholic;598736 wrote: Seth, I have not heard of any type snail that will eat bryopsis, so I can't say you are wrong, but if you are right then you better breed those bad boys cause you have a gold mine there, hehehe! I would guess that they are eating algae or organics from the surface of the bryopsis, but I would love to be proven wrong!

These little guys seem to eat the bases of the Bryopsis. I find long threads of it being blown around the tank in the morning. I guess it could be a result of my Tech M dosing. But it seems too much a coincidence that all the algae is gone in the area that the Bryopsis once covered. These little guys don't look exactly like the pic images you see when you google them but close. I see there are different species within the genome. Maybe I found the right one! Or maybe the Tech M is working really well. Not sure since I don't get to witness any of it.
 
I just went down with a flashlight to watch them. Each one has a different colored "Helmet". The helmet is in the head area. One of them is bright red. More Bryopsis is gone from the glass too!
 
My Sea Hare eats Bryopsis as well as hair algea... I love my Sea Hare :fing02:
 
MorganAtlanta;598769 wrote: There are a number of members around here who would give you $100 a piece for bryopsis eating snails...

With that said, I see a great opportunity! I see they are easy to breed. So far they have been exclusively on the glass. No sign of them on the live rock or substrate. I plan on spying on these at night to see for my own eyes they are eating the Bryopsis.
 
Seth The Wine Guy;598778 wrote: With that said, I see a great opportunity! I see they are easy to breed. So far they have been exclusively on the glass. No sign of them on the live rock or substrate. I plan on spying on these at night to see for my own eyes they are eating the Bryopsis.

Did these guys come from the live rock I sold you?
 
Most likely the Bryopsis started to deteriorate because of the Mag, and the stomatella just eat the dead tissue...
 
Sea hares and snails eating bryopsis would be a great step at control, but if you want to completely eliminate bryopsis, then refer back to the Tech M. IME, bryopsis can have deep roots that probably can't be reached by these type inverts. Of course, control is better than none, but complete elimination is the best, IMO at least
 
Seth The Wine Guy;598793 wrote: Yep! Hope you got some more!

I have tons and FWIW I have never had any algae issues of the sort ever and these guys clean like crazy...
 
You guys need to get together and do some experiments, like put these guys in with a bryopsis covered rock and see if they eliminate it. Big money maker if you found a snail that would get rid of it.
 
Acroholic;598811 wrote: You guys need to get together and do some experiments, like put these guys in with a bryopsis covered rock and see if they eliminate it. Big money maker if you found a snail that would get rid of it.

Hmmm I'm about to do a fish room in the basement and tie it into my main tank so while the sump is cycling maybe I can do a little experiment and see if these guys eat Bryopsis.
 
grouper therapy;598875 wrote: Double check the identity of the algae also to verify that it is Bryopsis.

It's a long green fern looking things. Can get several inches. Robin thought it was Bryopsis when looking at the tank. I trust his judgement well beyond my own at identifying such things.
 
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