Best cost in ATL for a new 120G RR tank.

[knightmetro]

What is the best price for a 120g RR in ATL? Brand new.

I have seen a few that have the single large corner overflow, or so I think. I kinda like that. Less plumbing and frees up some space in the back.

I want that or the dual corner overflows. Not the two placed more in the middle.

The story is.....

I just picked up a used 120g setup, stand, canopy, and an amazing LED lighting system.

When I got it home, cleaned it up, and did a water sheen test on the surfaces, there must be deep and visable scratches and abrasions on over 30% of the glass.

I can't make a show tank of of this.... It's not horrible. It's probably livable for most or what you'd be used to see in a 8+ y/o tank, but I don't want my new setup to have these kind of permanent blemishes.

 

[knightmetro]

I'll get it filled up and see what it looks like.

For now I'd like to get some prices together. Just in case.

I wouldn't be looking to pick up a new one till next month anyway.

 

[jennm]

Marineland (Perfecto) makes a 120 but it only has 1 corner overflow (left corner). IMO that's not enough flow (or potential flow) for a tank of that size. They used to make one with 2 corner overflows but they don't anymore.

Aqueon (aka All-Glass) makes a 120 with 2 overflows, but they are on the back of the tank, offset about 8" from each end.

Deep Blue makes a 120 Reef Ready... I am not sure if the overflows are in the corner or not - but I'm going to find out.... I believe it has Opticlear glass too (like Starphire)...

Jenn

 

[rdnelson]

If it were me I wouldn't be looking for reef ready. I would want to drill it were I want it and go with Bean Animal Overflow. But that's just my opinion.

 

[shanepike]

rdnelson99;826122 wrote: If it were me I wouldn't be looking for reef ready. I would want to drill it were I want it and go with Bean Animal Overflow. But that's just my opinion.

If I were doing it over again, I'd give this serious consideration based on what I've heard about the quietness of those bean animals. My tank isn't loud</em>, but it's sure not quiet. When I turn the return pump off, man the silence is awesome.

 

[jennm]

That is a consideration, for sure, but keep in mind, after-market drilling on a new tank, voids the warranty. Not a biggie on a used tank, used has no warranty anyway (and usually less initial investment)....

Just being the devil's advocate here...

Jenn

 

[eagle9252]

rdnelson99;826122 wrote: If it were me I wouldn't be looking for reef ready. I would want to drill it were I want it and go with Bean Animal Overflow. But that's just my opinion.

i spoke to an engineer at Marineland a wile back and we spoke about the BA and i was told that they have tested it and like it but they did not want to endorse someone elses drain system and they felt that most people would not understand it and would have more plumbing questions than the already do.

i'm with Rich on the BA.

 

[rdnelson]

JennM;826128 wrote: That is a consideration, for sure, but keep in mind, after-market drilling on a new tank, voids the warranty. Not a biggie on a used tank, used has no warranty anyway (and usually less initial investment)....

Just being the devil's advocate here...

Jenn

Something that would have to be considered for sure. Again, speaking only for myself here is how I would look at it.

1. If the company offers a good warranty they must have confidence in the tank that it will last that long.
2. If I do a leak test prior to drilling I would know that it was properly sealed.
3. If all joints looked well done and made it through the leak test I would assume it will last.
3. Having drilled a tank I now am confidant it could easily be done without mishap. I would accept that it is my risk but would willingly trade that for the up side the BA brings to the table.

Again, those are my thoughts and I am not trying to change anyone's mind but just present options you may think are viable.

 

[jennm]

eagle9252;826130 wrote: i spoke to an engineer at Marineland a wile back and we spoke about the BA and i was told that they have tested it and like it but they did not want to endorse someone elses drain system and they felt that most people would not understand it and would have more plumbing questions than the already do.

i'm with Rich on the BA.

No danger of Marineland doing a BA... they don't do customs at all anymore. And they have discontinued many of the standard tanks they were manufacturing. Not sure what's going on there, but they've made a lot of changes in the last few months.

Jenn

Edit:

rdnelson99;826135 wrote: Something that would have to be considered for sure. Again, speaking only for myself here is how I would look at it.

1. If the company offers a good warranty they must have confidence in the tank that it will last that long.
2. If I do a leak test prior to drilling I would know that it was properly sealed.
3. If all joints looked well done and made it through the leak test I would assume it will last.
3. Having drilled a tank I now am confidant it could easily be done without mishap. I would accept that it is my risk but would willingly trade that for the up side the BA brings to the table.

Again, those are my thoughts and I am not trying to change anyone's mind but just present options you may think are viable.

All valid points. Just offering up the 'big picture'

 

[rdnelson]

JennM;826136 wrote: No danger of Marineland doing a BA... they don't do customs at all anymore. And they have discontinued many of the standard tanks they were manufacturing. Not sure what's going on there, but they've made a lot of changes in the last few months.

Jenn

Edit:

All valid points. Just offering up the 'big picture'

Oh I know. My approach is not for everyone. No doubt about it. Which is why I added the disclaimer at the end. . As a retailer I understand you would be hesitant to make those suggestions because the buyer may hold you accountable. Everyone knows I am not accountable. Hehehehehe

 

[jennm]

And nobody gives you CREDIT! :lol:

For what it's worth, Deep Blue makes a standard 120 as well - I'd have to check if they use Opticlear glass on it too... I have an email in to my supplier with questions, I'm sure I'll have info tomorrow.

Jenn

 

[knightmetro]

I would consider a BA setup with the right help. Get some guys over to put it together. I'm kinda new at this outside of a 29 Bicube, so this is me finally jumping all the way in. I've done years of research, but the BA is new to me.

I could see getting a GlassCages 120 for that and then customizing it.

 

[knightmetro]

Throw me some prices on the 120's you have on either side. I'm up to see some prices and find out all my options.

Opticlear or starfire glass would be great as well for the front.

 

[rdnelson]

KnightMetro;826145 wrote: I would consider a BA setup with the right help. Get some guys over to put it together. I'm kinda new at this outside of a 29 Bicube, so this is me finally jumping all the way in. I've done years of research, but the BA is new to me.

I could see getting a GlassCages 120 for that and then customizing it.

I would be happy to help in anny way I could. But the best I can do is point you to a few things where you can learn it for yourself (always solidifies it better that way). You can look at my build thread (skip most of it but look for the pictures) under "Rich's 125). Also look at Eagles build thread. But the best place is the source itself. Do a google search for "Bean Animal BA and Grill". Great description.

 

[rdnelson]

That should be "Bean Animal Bar and Grill".

 

[ichthyoid]

JennM;826116 wrote: Marineland (Perfecto) makes a 120 but it only has 1 corner overflow (left corner). IMO that's not enough flow (or potential flow) for a tank of that size. They used to make one with 2 corner overflows but they don't anymore.

Jenn

At almost 6x turnover per hour how can that be? (700gph capacity)

On a reef tank with internal powerheads (say, 2x Votech MP40's) I think that's more than adequate.

 

[knightmetro]

PM'd you Jenn

 

[wannabeeareefkeeper]

rdnelson99;826150 wrote: That should be "Bean Animal Bar and Grill".

I've heard that they also have an Ultimate Cheeseburger Deluxe and French Fries that is O.O.T.W [Out of this world]. :wow2: :yes: :lol2:hehe; last four letters borrowed from rdnelson99.

Wannabee

 

[ichthyoid]

ichthyoid;826154 wrote: At almost 6x turnover per hour how can that be? (700gph capacity)

On a reef tank with internal powerheads (say, 2x Votech MP40's) I think that's more than adequate.

I calculated that at 5x turnovers per hour (600 gph flow), this will assure that at least 96.88% of the tanks water will be cycled every hour.

This assumes a dilution ratio of 50% of the tanks remaining uncycled water, for each of the 5 cycles.

 

[knightmetro]

Still looking for prices on 120 RR tanks.....