Bought a 90 looking for Ideas

[KrisDeitz]

So i bought a 90 RR. has one Overflow.

I plan on Reef tank

Would something like Closed Look be good for me?

Dont know much about it but hear good things.

I plan to Run a Uv and a Algae Scrubber.

I also have a kalk Reactor and Plan on a Huge skimmer

Mainly asking is closed loop good?

 

[cr500_af]

Closed loops are good in that they don't clutter up the tank, but beyond that I don't personally care for them. Some will disagree, but my reasoning is that 1) one pump fails and you have zero flow 2) If you have a plumbing leak, it is by nature WAY below the waterline, and can empty half your tank or more before you know it (if it happens at a bad time) 3) Drilling the holes always carries some risk of breaking the glass.

Just my .02

 

[KrisDeitz]

cr500_af;741920 wrote: Closed loops are good in that they don't clutter up the tank, but beyond that I don't personally care for them. Some will disagree, but my reasoning is that 1) one pump fails and you have zero flow 2) If you have a plumbing leak, it is by nature WAY below the waterline, and can empty half your tank or more before you know it (if it happens at a bad time) 3) Drilling the holes always carries some risk of breaking the glass.

Just my .02

Thanks Barry!


Im hoping two Mp10s will be good enough flow for my 90

 

[lilrobb]

CLs are much more popular on large tanks that would otherwise require numerous powerheads, with a 90 and two good powerheads, you'll be much better off...

Edit:

PFCDeitz;741923 wrote: Thanks Barry!


Im hoping two Mp10s will be good enough flow for my 90

Make that 40s, I would suggest

 

[liverock27]

I would suggest going with 40s over 10s as well. I have 2 on my 90 and really like them.

 

[cr500_af]

LilRobb;741924 wrote:
Make that 40s, I would suggest

Or one. I have two in my 90, and if I go over 40% or so it's too much flow for my arrangement. One wouldn't be as widespread in coverage, but would be plenty of flow IMO.

 

[KrisDeitz]

I just dont have 700.00 bucks to drop on them yet. Being i have the Mp10s i plan to use them. Still looking for two more

 

[cr500_af]

I think they'll be fine as long as you aren't SPS-dominant... at least short-term.

 

[db366]

I am sure if you started out with say 1 mp10, and two k3's and hook the K's into your controller you would have good flow to start out with and then you can save up and get your vortechs later.

Another option might be a tunze nano wavebox and your mp10. That should create some nice flow.

 

[maelstrom79]

Following along here too...l vortech is the "gold standard"?

 

[grouper therapy]

cr500_af;741920 wrote: Closed loops are good in that they don't clutter up the tank, but beyond that I don't personally care for them. Some will disagree, but my reasoning is that 1) one pump fails and you have zero flow 2) If you have a plumbing leak, it is by nature WAY below the waterline, and can empty half your tank or more before you know it (if it happens at a bad time) 3) Drilling the holes always carries some risk of breaking the glass.

Just my .02

Here is my rebuttal with the up most respect.
1. If the closed loop pump fails you still have the return pump for flow generally speaking. By way of experience I feel that an external closed loop pump is more reliable than any powerhead.
2. Very true It will empty the tank if the plumbing develops a leak but really what are the realistic odds if done properly with quality fittings. I would reason that they are no greater than a seam bursting.
3. True albeit slim if done by someone with experience.
I will agree that there is more risk but I believe to be extremely small if done properly. I just cant take the sight of power heads. Please don't take that wrong a lot of you have beautiful tanks with them in it. Just not for me is all.

So far as what is the most beneficial ,either can be equally good as the other IMO.

 

[cr500_af]

grouper therapy;742120 wrote: Here is my rebuttal with the up most respect.
1. If the closed loop pump fails you still have the return pump for flow generally speaking. By way of experience I feel that an external closed loop pump is more reliable than any powerhead.
2. Very true It will empty the tank if the plumbing develops a leak but really what are the realistic odds if done properly with quality fittings. I would reason that they are no greater than a seam bursting.
3. True albeit slim if done by someone with experience.
I will agree that there is more risk but I believe to be extremely small if done properly. I just cant take the sight of power heads. Please don't take that wrong a lot of you have beautiful tanks with them in it. Just not for me is all.

So far as what is the most beneficial ,either can be equally good as the other IMO.

Don't disagree with you at all... "done properly" is the big one. I don't know the OP, so don't take me wrong, but after some systems I've seen, I never assume anything will be done properly.
I don't mind the sight of powerheads so much as long as they aren't big and obnoxious.

 

[KrisDeitz]

cr500_af;742170 wrote: Don't disagree with you at all... "done properly" is the big one. I don't know the OP, so don't take me wrong, but after some systems I've seen, I never assume anything will be done properly.
I don't mind the sight of powerheads so much as long as they aren't big and obnoxious.

Im deff one for proper done work. Ive had to many failures.

 

[grouper therapy]

cr500_af;742170 wrote: Don't disagree with you at all... "done properly" is the big one. I don't know the OP, so don't take me wrong, but after some systems I've seen, I never assume anything will be done properly.
I don't mind the sight of powerheads so much as long as they aren't big and obnoxious.

I agree Barry.
With that said I think that is the only substantial difference in the two. Both having their pros and cons.