Old tank majig don't happen to everyone but I somehow find it relative to the sand bed since it have so much more surface area than live rocks. I find that to be the no1 cause of old tank problems. This is also one of the reasons i'm leaning towards a BB and a sandbed sump. It'll be much easier to clean since the sump have a drain, and i can just shut off the return pump, stir up the sand like crazy, and drain all the murkey water out and put clean one in. This is a good way to prevent alot of problems.