johnr2604;284959 wrote: I have learned not to rely on K rating when it comes to bulbs. There are 14k's that are like 10k's, 20k's that give more par the 14k ratings. I just research and go with a proven bulb that I like the color. The pheonix bulbs mentioned are great but are alot bluer than some other 14k bulbs. The ushios tend to whiter. Par numbers are all over the place when you look at some of the bulbs with the same K rating.