Just some advice on my experience on using the Chinese LED fixture. I always was curious about the effects of the optics that come standard on the lights. I will concur that they do specifically what they say. The fixtures with the 90 or 60 degree optics will narrow the lighting angle spread and penetrate to further depths of the tank. When the optics are removed it gives a better spread of the light more evenly across the tank without really high par areas directly under the fixture and dull areas outside of the fixture. My advice would be that the question of whether or not to use the optics will be on a case by case basis and will have many different variables as to which is the best choice. For someone using just one fixture suspended over let's say a cube tank then the optics would be a better choice as the light would be focused directly in that area. On the other hand for someone like myself that is using 3 of the fixtures over an 84 inch (length) tank, having a better spread would be more beneficial by not using the optics. In conclusion you must assess your specific tank and individual need to make the best decision for you.