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I've been around long enough that, on a number of occasions, I've heard more experienced reefers state that they do a limited amount of water tests because the corals generally indicate when there is a problem.

Indicators usually include the lack of polyp extension, bleaching, browning, etc.

Prior to this year, I had thought the bleaching of coral was either due to STN, RTN (from the bottom up) or too strong of light (from the top down). I had also thought that a browning coral was due to either too nutrient rich water or lower kelvin light.

However, my experience this year suggests something a little different.

This year, I've had a 20g tank setup. I keep a mixed reef with the whole gambit of corals. This year, in particular, has been tough in regards to keeping consistently pristine water. This year, I have been pretty poor with my maintenance; mostly doing water changes when times are not going well. The parameter that goes out of whack the quickest for me is the nitrate reading.

Through the ups and downs of my nitrates, I have noticed a pattern which is contrary to what I said above. When my nitrates are on the rise and getting out of control, my SPS start to bleach, or turn white. I've always thought that nutrient rich water would cause browning.

Anyways, I'm curious to know what your corals tell you. What do they do when ____ has gone wrong?
 
Chances are if you're maintenance is slacking and you aren't testing it's pretty hard to point a finger and say "nitrate"

I understand completely though. My advice would be to increase your total water volume so that you can afford to be lazier. I'm plumbing a 40 breeder into the closet and may tie something else on to that
 
JDavid;1055234 wrote: Chances are if you're maintenance is slacking and you aren't testing it's pretty hard to point a finger and say "nitrate"

I understand completely though. My advice would be to increase your total water volume so that you can afford to be lazier. I'm plumbing a 40 breeder into the closet and may tie something else on to that

I am actually in the process of doing a mini upgrade. I'll be going from a 20g to a 30g with a sump. I should end up doubling my water volume. This isn't really the point of the post though. It's more about your observations when things go awry. What can we look for to know there is an issue?

I've actually done plenty of tests this year to know that my issue is/was nitrates. I don't think I said that I never test, but if I did, that's not what I meant. Doing a round of tests for me takes about 20 minutes, whereas water changes take me much longer and require more effort.
 
Other things build up too between water changes. I'm simply saying it could be nitrate or phosphate or whatever causing each individual problem. I don't keep Sps really so as far as bleaching and browsing out idk but I do know dilution is the solution to pollution. So what's the question? What does it indicate? It indicates do a water change or maybe figure out what you can do for a long term solution... Reactor, increase TWV, etc.
 
20 gal is a hard tank to keep a mixed reef with Sps in. If you feed your tank at all I would at least look into the phosphate as a potential cause for your corals bleaching
 
This is just what I'm reading now, this guys notes off reef builders. Might help

Guide of SPS coral coloration (make them more vivid, bright)


September 3, Ryan Gripp –


This guide endeavors to assist you with the ever popular SPS coral. This was written by member Shadowramy and it explains specific ideas and strategies in which you can do to affect the color of your corals. This assumes you have a more then basic understanding of water parameters in your tank. Click the read link to start reading about coloring in SPS corals.

In the past I have been asked a lot about coral colorization as well as wanted to satisfy my own curiosity about specific methods to achieving certain colors. Usually I am asked, How do you get good colors? Which I then ask, What specific color are you looking to enhance? Over the past several months I have really worked on tweaking colors and what is needed to get certain colors. I have done my own testing as well as seen a lot of others tanks and what they have done to achieve certain colors. I think I finally have a basic map for those who are interested.

Please note: I am assuming that you meet the minimum suggested standards to keeping SPS; strong lighting, calcium at the appropriate levels, strong skimming and live rock.


Yellows

Highly dependent on Nitrate and PO4 levels. Of course all SPS colors are highly dependent on lack of N and P so I wanted to start with probably the easiest color to get, yellow. Yellows are sort of your baseline; yellows will tell you a lot about what is going on in your tank, what is needed and what is overdosed. Nitrate and/or PO4 reduction is most important, either through technical means such as nitrate/phosphate reducers or biologically through DSB, Carbon dosing and/or water changes and fuges. Basically, if you want to do SPS, I would suggest starting with an acropora that is yellow. If you can get it to say yellow for several months, you should be ready for something else.


Greens

Greens would be the next easiest color to tweak. Most green coloration can be achieved through the addition of an Iron Concentrate (Kents is what I use, however Iron is Iron). You must be very careful with Iron because it is also an Algae accelerator; this is why it is so important for you to get your yellows colors first (your N and P will be lowered).

Additionally, I use my yellows as indicators for my greens and blues. You’ll notice a deficiency if your greens are brown color or they are paling in color. I start off by dosing Iron at about 1 drop per 50 US/Gallons twice a week and take note of what happens, color changes, Algae growth, until my yellow acroporas display a green shimmer (it wont be a solid green but a shimmer of a green/yellow).

Please note, a sign of overdosing is a darkening of tissue, when this happens you have added too much iron or too much iron is being added. Another sign of overdosing is Algae growth, stop immediately and possibly do a water change if necessary. Like everything else reef, go slowly.

Blues and some purples

This is mainly for blues but I have found is can also have an effect on purples. The supplement for this is Potassium Iodide Concentrate or Lugol’s solution, ESV Potassium Iodide Concentrate will also work; don’t just get something that says Potassium because that is a little different. Dosing should be done when blue colors become less intense. Again, using yellow corals as indicators, stop dosing when yellow corals display a green shimmer.


Reds/Pinks and some Purples

Primarily for coloring reds and pinks in Montiporas, Pocilloporas, Birdsnest, other Stys and Seriatoporas. The supplement is Potassium (not potassium iodide). If you are using a high potassium salt mix such as Oceanic, Tropical Marine Pro and you are doing regular water changes, you are more than likely not going to need to supplement this much.

For dosing you can use your monitporas, especially caps as indicators. Supplementing is required when Montiporas display slower growth and appear washed out to grey appearance. Indicators on Stys and Pocs are when they look like they have been exposed to air. Polyps are completely withdrawn and colors are light. Other indicators of potassium deficiency is when the pinks turn into a light brown and when acroporas loose their color and get lighter and pale. A major potassium deficiency is seen when tissue is lost, mostly starting from the base opposed to spotting (patchy look). And overdose can lead to tip burning so don’t mistake tip burn for new growth. Tips burns will be white with no polyps.


Purples

Probably one of the hardest coloration of all acroporas from my experience since it is a combination of several variables.

First and foremost is water clarity, which means Carbon and/or filter socks. I have also had good result from biological filters such as using cryptic zones, which produce seasquirts, sponges and other filter feeding animals. Zeo Sponge Power, which can be used in any system, feeds sponges. Sponges are great because they can filter a mass amount of water for better water clarity.

From what I have noted, increased water clarify will first effect SPS tips but not the complete base. I have seen nana and valida with really nice purple tips but brown/tan/white bases. I have seen the same nana and valida in anothers tanks, which met all other parameters with a full purple from base to tip.

Second being lighting. From my observations of my own tank and others, purples seem to love 420-440nm range light spectrum, those found in actinics and 20K halides. Some of the best purples I have seen are in tanks that have 440nm blue actinics (ATI Blue+, Giessman Actinic) or 20K Halides (Radium, XM 20K).

Third, supplements such as Iodide and Potassium (see blues and Reds/Pinks). Again, make sure your greens are green and yellows are yellow. Your blue should be bright with depth. Iodide will also help if you have tip burn.
 
I know people who stay on top of the iron potassium etc.... As you can see he uses the word indicate a lot back on topic
 
I keep a really close eye on my system since I'm home most of the time. Over the last year+ of dosing, I went from testing every few days to every couple of weeks now. With that said, I have key indicators that I watch for in case something may be amiss. For instance my Acan colonies, Sea Fan and Gregorian will close up if my Alkalinty rises above 9.5 and/or my calcium jumps up over 500. Once they close up, I test and sure enough my levels are off. For me it's a simple way to gauge those levels and they are pretty accurate.

I just wish I could figure out an indicator for Magnesium.
 
Long term observation is KEY to a successful tank.
Numbers are great, but observation can not only tell you what might be happening, but where the numbers are HEADING. It takes time to gently turn a trend once it is established.


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