isn't it time to buy aqua-cultured corals only?

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I always buy out of someones tank or get corals from a LFS that have been fragged from their own colonies.
 
mysterybox;598448 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SdDiHbG1tY&hd=1">YouTube - Coral reefs and climate change: A message for Copenhagen</a>


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[B]I think a lot more then where we get out coral needs to change....

Phil :sad:
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Although I don't condone collecting wild caught corals, I don't believe that is the real problem. When corals are collected only one coral is harmed. Alot of times the coral that is left when peices are left behind will regrow. Pollution/overheating can wipe out an intire reef within days. That being said every little thing can help :yes:
 
It is the human effect that is the big problem. Most people on earth only take from the earth not considering the what happens afterwards, because we are (I want it now no matter the cost) kind of people. Will it change....probably not, Most do not care enough about themselves to even worry about the next.
 
Like a lot of things from 'science experts' it is tough to know what/who to believe anymore and what their motivations might be. With that said though I think we should all at least adopt a policy of only taking what we need and trying to conserve where we can. Don't waste water, turn off lights when you don't need them, don't drive a giant car if you don't need one, recycle if you can, etc. And in our case if something Aquacultured is available and reasonably priced then it would seem to make sense to buy that instead.
 
don't underestimate mother nature, she's been here since the begining and be here till the end. i had a 10 degree fluxuation in my tank the other day and lost nothing. according to the some a 1/2 degree wipes out entire reef, i say horse hockey. on the other hand i think we should do all we can do to help.
 
Honest question, with all the climate change arguement against reefs survival, how did they survive the last ice age and other global changes? It was a slower change sure, but still a "blink of an eye" next to the videos 240,000,000 years and too fast for evolution to help much. I give +1 to mother nature for being pretty amazing and want conservation more out of respect than for concern.
 
I don't feel it my place to tell or suggest to others what to do (unless it affects me or my family directly).

However, I do (for the most part :) what I feel is in good conscience. I drive an efficient car. I upgrade to efficient appliances and I try to recycle and waste little when I can. I don't consider any of that any different from what I think most "decent" folks try an do. Some are better, some are worse, it's life.

That being said... I only stock with fragged or aquacultured corals. It would be nice to claim that my actions are only those of a virtuous man. However, my motives are multi-faceted. I find that fragged and cultured livestock tend to be less expensive and somewhat easier to keep. Since I am lazy nad my husbandry skills are modest at best, this allows me to save a buck, not butcher innocent corals and claim my magnanimous virtue.

But for those individuals that have the drive, financial where with all, and capabilities, I cannot suggest to them to limit their practice to mine. And if they didn't, then how would we learn in the future? It is their efforts that bring our knowledge to the point where we will no longer have to pull (as much) from the wild.

A (perhaps poor) analogy might be: Since we can get all of our beef from raised cattle, we should eliminate hunting. Say that to a hunter and you best be behind a shield :lol2:

My $.02 worth

johnny
 
As for only buying aqua-cultured corals, wouldn't it be better to only buy sustainably-harvested wild corals so that the coral reefs acquire a direct economic value, which then gives the local harvesters a direct reason to preserve them? If they are only "just pretty to look at", the reefs will loose out every time to other economic interests.

I'm afraid it wouldn't have an impact anyway. You can add up the area of every reef tank in the world, and probably not come close to the area of one fringing reef around one south pacific island. Let's say there are 1 billion people in the world who can contemplate keeping a reef tank, and of those, 0.1% choose to do so-- 0.1% would mean about 5000 reef tanks in Atlanta. Anyway, 0.1% of 1 billion gives 1 million reef tanks. If each reef tank is on average 10 square feet, you get 10 million square feet of reef in tanks in the world. An acre is roughly 50000 square feet, so 10 million square feet is roughly 200 acres. Let's say that if every tank in the world got restocked completely with wild coral every 5 years, you would only have to clear cut 40 acres of reef per year to do so. With coral reefs the size of those in Australia, Indonesia, the South Pacific, Belize, etc, clearly you could sustainably harvest corals for reef tanks forever (frag instead of clear cutting). The Great Barrier Reef covers something like 80 million acres. Somebody check my math, but I think if I'm off by 100x, the conclusion still stands.

Now, siltation, pollution, climate change or whatever might be another matter because they can affect broad areas, but I don't think a blanket statement saying we should only buy aqua-cultured corals is justified as a way to "protect" coral reefs. In fact, by reducing the incentive for locals to protect their reefs (and giving your $$ instead to a company in the US), you might be harming the reefs in the end. But in any case, because the area of the wild reefs is so large relative to the area kept in reef tanks, the impact of only buying aqua-cultured coral would be negligible.
 
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