Live Rock

[shamanofsexy]

Sorry if ive put this in the wrong place. Still geting used to the layout.

Right my tank set up. Filter filtering, water salted sitting at 1.025 at moment a little high but i figure when i take water out to add my live rock i can lower this.
Protein SKimmer not skimming yet as i dont see need in setting it to skim until i add the rock (but i did turn it on to check it was working).

Right so the question is i know i need between 30 + 40kg but the bank balance says i need to do this as cheap as possible. So thinking if i get a bag of ocean rock how much live rock would i need to get to to bring the ocean rock to life.

Is there a scale or rule of thumb to use?? Or does it not matter?

 

[dakota9]

The more live rock the better, but any amount will do fine, as long as there's life on it. An ammonia source would help you along as well.

The specific gravity (level of salt in your water ) is fine, leave it at that level.

Good Luck!

 

[kayakatl]

shamanofsexy;441774 wrote: Sorry if ive put this in the wrong place. Still geting used to the layout.

Right my tank set up. Filter filtering, water salted sitting at 1.025 at moment a little high but i figure when i take water out to add my live rock i can lower this.
Protein SKimmer not skimming yet as i dont see need in setting it to skim until i add the rock (but i did turn it on to check it was working).

Right so the question is i know i need between 30 + 40kg but the bank balance says i need to do this as cheap as possible. So thinking if i get a bag of ocean rock how much live rock would i need to get to to bring the ocean rock to life.

Is there a scale or rule of thumb to use?? Or does it not matter?

How large is the tank? 30-40 kg rock is about 66-88Lbs? what size is the Tank? (I noticed you posted in Kg, so for the record ~3.7 Litre to the Gal)
Dry rock is fine, just make sure you have enough flow to be spreading the life from the live rock to the dry rock. I know some people on this forum use a piece of raw shrimp to bring ammonia up to start cycling, I personally used ammonia out of a bottle. It CANNOT have any surficants, or color, or scent. I got it at ACE hardware, only place I could find clean ammonia. Ill take a pic of the bottle later and post it. I added something like 1 drop for every 10 gal per day until I saw nitrite come and go, and nitrate start to show up. Then I dropped down to 1 drop per 20-30 gal until I got enough live rock in there to continue the cycle on its own. I would get as much of the rock Live as the budget allows.

 

[shamanofsexy]

kayakATL;441863 wrote: How large is the tank? 30-40 kg rock is about 66-88Lbs? what size is the Tank? (I noticed you posted in Kg, so for the record ~3.7 Litre to the Gal)
Dry rock is fine, just make sure you have enough flow to be spreading the life from the live rock to the dry rock. I know some people on this forum use a piece of raw shrimp to bring ammonia up to start cycling, I personally used ammonia out of a bottle. It CANNOT have any surficants, or color, or scent. I got it at ACE hardware, only place I could find clean ammonia. Ill take a pic of the bottle later and post it. I added something like 1 drop for every 10 gal per day until I saw nitrite come and go, and nitrate start to show up. Then I dropped down to 1 drop per 20-30 gal until I got enough live rock in there to continue the cycle on its own. I would get as much of the rock Live as the budget allows.

The tank is 240l or 60(ish) gallon

 

[brianjfinn]

Leave your salt level at 1.025, that's perfect. Just like they said, get as much live rock as possible, but it is OK to use base rock with only a little bit of live rock. I'd let the rock sit for a month or two after it cycles to let the beneficial organisms multiply and spread to the base rock.

 

[shamanofsexy]

cheers guys should fingers crossed get all the rock in by friday so will let you know exact amounts of each when its all in.

 

[lilrobb]

Since you're another metric guy; welcome to the club.
Where are you from?!

 

[shamanofsexy]

LilRobb;441923 wrote: Since you're another metric guy; welcome to the club.
Where are you from?!

Im from the U.K. Manchester to be more specific

 

[shamanofsexy]

heeyyy got some rock today managed to get 40kg of Fijan Live Rock for £238 on ebay a guy was down scalling and had it all listed so hopefully it will be as good as he says and ill have gotten a good dea.

Hopefully collecting tomorrow but delighted to have gotten it all as cured mature live rock

 

[lilrobb]

If you paid 238GBP for 40kgs - please buy all my rocks! LOL

 

[shamanofsexy]

LilRobb;443003 wrote: If you paid 238GBP for 40kgs - please buy all my rocks! LOL

Over here Fijan Rock goes for between $12 and $19 per Kg. Which is why i was having the problems in not being able to buy it all live and was looking at other options retail it would have cost me around $650 for it all so ive saved quite alot doing it which is good.

Apologies for speaking English ill try to remember to convert before i post

 

[shamanofsexy]

dawgdude;443041 wrote: WOW. Rock is expensive. I wonder if you can get dry rock for a lot cheaper?

Yeah you can get dry rock alot cheaper for anything between $2 per kg and $5 per kg but from things ive been reading about it its sat for that long in trasport getting over here and to the shops and to be being bought by the time you get it in your tank theres nothing worth saving.

At my LFS the 40kgs of dry fijian rock would have cost me around $300 (£200)

 

[brianjfinn]

shamanofsexy;443037 wrote:

Apologies for speaking English ill try to remember to convert before i post

Wow, snuck that in there. That's funny. By the way, sounds like you're still in the U.K. What made you choose this forum, just out of curiosity?

 

[shamanofsexy]

brianjfinn;443058 wrote: Wow, snuck that in there. That's funny. By the way, sounds like you're still in the U.K. What made you choose this forum, just out of curiosity?

As i said in the new members forum the main thing that grabbed the attention was the 899 gallon tank but since then ive been impressed by the forum and i haven't found many forums this focussed on Marine and there seems to be a hell of alot of knowledge on here that hopefully i can learn from so i dont screw up my tank.

 

[brianjfinn]

shamanofsexy;443062 wrote: As i said in the new members forum the main thing that grabbed the attention was the 899 gallon tank but since then ive been impressed by the forum and i haven't found many forums this focussed on Marine and there seems to be a hell of alot of knowledge on here that hopefully i can learn from so i dont screw up my tank.

Oh yeah, sorry. I do remember seeing that thread.

dawgdude;443063 wrote: Cause its one of the few where the people dont suck and the mods arent on a power trip!

Yeah, that's why I spend all my time here and not on RC. Plus, I really like the fact that everyone here is local. Well, almost everyone...

 

[lilrobb]

Oh LOL.
Didn't catch you're in the UK - my bad!

 

[cr500_af]

Welcome to our most remote user! (Well, except when Mark posted "Howdy from Afghanistan"...)

 

[shamanofsexy]

LilRobb;443077 wrote: Oh LOL.
Didn't catch you're in the UK - my bad!

Yeah there wasnt an option for that on the location so im pretty much a hijacker lol.