hello has anyone used phosban i had arc member wayb test my water today (thanks wayne) and we determined my phosphates were way out of wack anyway im going to do a couple water changes and i purchased some phosban and not 100% clear on how to use it i was going to put it in my rena xp3 but on the instructions it says if you have to much flow it will pulverize the pelets and would not be good for the fish so do i flote it in the tank or what do you all sugest thanks, mark
phos-ban usage?
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You must export the same or more nutrients than you put in. Overfeeding, tap water, high phosphate foods, etc.
I would use GFO, however you must be real slow when introducing to your system. I would nor use any aluminum based product such as Seachem's. IMHO. You must read up and do some research first. Also, those reactors ate like 35 bucks, and hang on sump; not a big deal.
Phosphate reduction/ removal and high trates could be the answer. Wet skimming with a skimmer that is rated at least double your water volume. If you cannot get a fuge or sump (you can maybe make a "Rubbermaid sump with cheato in it for a few bucks) you can get a $35.00 hang on phosphate reactor for your tank and put some GFO in there. In the future, you'll most likely need a refugium with Macro algae. If you choose GFO, you’ll need to start VERY SLOWLY! Use 25% of the recommended media, slowly increasing every 2-4 weeks. You need to acclimate your tank inhabitants over at least a 2 month period especially is you have any stony corals. Once acclimated you’ll need to change your Iron based media in the phosphate reactor more often. Your media will get saturated in 2 weeks or so depending upon how much is bound up in your rocks, tank, algae, etc. Use less media, change every 2 weeks. Use a great test kit like DD Merck, Hack, or colormeter or send to AWT. If you already have a fuge & reactor, be aggressive & change the media every 2 weeks.
When you do your water change, take the end of the hose and suck all the algae down like a vacuum. It'll take a few water changes, but it works (especially after the phosphate remover kicks in)
Use a phosphate reactor with some phosar or ROWA or whatever, and something to lower nitrates like a fuge, AZNO3, Vodka, VSV or other carbon source.
check out:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.php">http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/index.php">http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm</a>
[IMG]http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php">http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-05/eb/index.php">http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-05/eb/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/august2003/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/august2003/chem.htm</a>
[IMG]http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1349443">http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1349443</a>
[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/sept2002/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/sept2002/chem.htm</a>
VSV:
[IMG]http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...nftt/index.php">http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...nftt/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1225324">http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1225324</a>
[IMG]http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forum...ighlight=vodka">http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forum...ighlight=vodka</a>
some links need to be copied and pasted in browser.
Ralph
I would use GFO, however you must be real slow when introducing to your system. I would nor use any aluminum based product such as Seachem's. IMHO. You must read up and do some research first. Also, those reactors ate like 35 bucks, and hang on sump; not a big deal.
Phosphate reduction/ removal and high trates could be the answer. Wet skimming with a skimmer that is rated at least double your water volume. If you cannot get a fuge or sump (you can maybe make a "Rubbermaid sump with cheato in it for a few bucks) you can get a $35.00 hang on phosphate reactor for your tank and put some GFO in there. In the future, you'll most likely need a refugium with Macro algae. If you choose GFO, you’ll need to start VERY SLOWLY! Use 25% of the recommended media, slowly increasing every 2-4 weeks. You need to acclimate your tank inhabitants over at least a 2 month period especially is you have any stony corals. Once acclimated you’ll need to change your Iron based media in the phosphate reactor more often. Your media will get saturated in 2 weeks or so depending upon how much is bound up in your rocks, tank, algae, etc. Use less media, change every 2 weeks. Use a great test kit like DD Merck, Hack, or colormeter or send to AWT. If you already have a fuge & reactor, be aggressive & change the media every 2 weeks.
When you do your water change, take the end of the hose and suck all the algae down like a vacuum. It'll take a few water changes, but it works (especially after the phosphate remover kicks in)
Use a phosphate reactor with some phosar or ROWA or whatever, and something to lower nitrates like a fuge, AZNO3, Vodka, VSV or other carbon source.
check out:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.php">http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/index.php">http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/july2003/chem.htm</a>
[IMG]http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php">http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-05/eb/index.php">http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-05/eb/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/august2003/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/august2003/chem.htm</a>
[IMG]http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1349443">http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1349443</a>
[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/sept2002/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/sept2002/chem.htm</a>
VSV:
[IMG]http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...nftt/index.php">http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...nftt/index.php</a>
[IMG]http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1225324">http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1225324</a>
[IMG]http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forum...ighlight=vodka">http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forum...ighlight=vodka</a>
some links need to be copied and pasted in browser.
Ralph
ok that works where do the phosphates come from? last night i went home and after wayne got the high readings i tested it 12-15 hors later and they have went down and i did a 10-15 water change and tested again and they were sky high and also thismorning they were really high i tested the water i use to mix with the salt and it was right at 0 maybe alitle trace i dont really understand phosphates that much but i need to know where it is coming from to fix it any ideas, mark
