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I let my tank sit in total darkness for a little over 36hrs. When i got up this morning and turned om the lights, i see no difference. I mean some of the HA was falling off the rocks or hanging loosely but it didnt look dead , still green... so i took every single rock, took all the frags and coral off of them, and took a toothbrush to each piece of rock, then did a massive water change. I have decided to move all the coral to my frag tank, which i started up the same day it went dark in the main tank. I just sook out all the matrix from the MT and put it in a Aquaclear filter and used half of the water for it from the MT. So What now? Im only running actinics in the MT for now, and i have the coral in the FT in shaded areas with low par.
 
Unless you remove or mitigate your phosphates and nitrates, you'll be stuck in this cycle forever.

1) GFO and denitrator
-or-
2) Carbon dosing
-or-
3) Frequent, large water changes that export more nutrients than you input and your tank generates
 
SaltyVixen;972339 wrote: i dont have it. I have a reactor, but no gfo or pump for the reactor lol

I have a couple bags if i come to atl soon i will meet and give you some. Came with a setup i took in. Gfo will work wonders!
 
jrhunter0000;972355 wrote: I have a couple bags if i come to atl soon i will meet and give you some. Came with a setup i took in. Gfo will work wonders!

That would be awesome! Thank you! :up:
 
I would say 36 hrs is no where near enough time to see much difference.
 
If you are having a hair algae issue, then you have too many nutrients in the tank. Nutrient export is a multi-prong strategy. Here is what I do:

1. Carbon use, changing it out regularly
2. GFO use, changing it out regularly, regular water changes. In my case a 1% daily change with a double headed pump.
3. Regular use of filter socks for mechanical filtration, removed and rinsed/replaced every two days.
4. Protein skimming, keeping the skimmer neck clean. I use a neck cleaner, but otherwise cleaning the cup/neck once weekly.
5. Sulfur denitrator. I have and use one. They work very well. I would not say they are a requirement. Use of the other strategies I have listed would probably get you where you need to go regarding nitrate and phosphate levels
6. Judicious feeding. You'd be surprised how the root of many HA issues is r/t over feeding. Not saying this is your issue, but you could look at it and see if it applies.
7. I have Mexican Turbo Snails in my tank. Nothing better for eating HA, IME, hands down. Other snails have the name "Turbo" attached to them, but are not Mexican turbos.
8. Regular testing for PO4 and NO3 to alert you in case you ned to up your above techniques.

Now the regimen above is what I do to maintain a relatively algae free environment in my 465. What you can do now to get rid of your existing alges is:

1. Manually remove it using a tooth brush or other plastic stiff bristle brush, incorporating it as part of a water change.
2. Add your Mexican Turbo Snails now, as they start eating as soon as they hit the tank.
3. Buy a sea hare. They will mow down hair algae fast, but after you have it under control, you will need to remove and rehome the Hare, as it will stave and die without hair algae to eat.
 
Did you follow my directions completely?

Checklist


- Did you manually remove as much as possible?
-Did you leave the tank in complete darkness even the fuge?
-Did you not feed the tank for the time period?
-Did you do a water change to remove some nutrients and dead algae?

-Most of all did you repeat?

It takes a day or two to grow algae in your system, but it takes even more days to get rid of it.
 
MarquiseO;972664 wrote: Did you follow my directions completely?

Checklist


- Did you manually remove as much as possible? <u> check, i didnt toothbrush it outside the tank, but i did pull ALOT of it out first
</u>-Did you leave the tank in complete darkness even the fuge? <u>Check</u>
-Did you not feed the tank for the time period?<u>No eeding during lights out period</u>
-Did you do a water change to remove some nutrients and dead algae?<u>i changed 40g the morning i turned lights back on</u>

-Most of all did you repeat?
I did repeat a manual removal. I took each piece of rock out and took a toothbrush to it. I did that first hen the glass and such, then did the water change siphoning out any free floating algae. I also had all pumps off while cleaning
 
SaltyVixen;972678 wrote: Checklist


- Did you manually remove as much as possible? <u> check, i didnt toothbrush it outside the tank, but i did pull ALOT of it out first
</u>-Did you leave the tank in complete darkness even the fuge? <u>Check</u>
-Did you not feed the tank for the time period?<u>No eeding during lights out period</u>
-Did you do a water change to remove some nutrients and dead algae?<u>i changed 40g the morning i turned lights back on</u>

-Most of all did you repeat?
I did repeat a manual removal. I took each piece of rock out and took a toothbrush to it. I did that first hen the glass and such, then did the water change siphoning out any free floating algae. I also had all pumps off while cleaning

I would recommend doing another dark period and do another water change during the dark period. The reason being is because the algae still has a food source. You should have lost a significant amount from the dark period. Any ambient light can provide food to the algae. Don't give up just try again. As others stated above, running GFO can help to kill the algae off faster.
 
I figured i'd update this. The Hair algae is coming back at a MUCH slower rate, a rate i can easily keep up with on manual removal. The thing i changed was running my fuge light on a 20 hr cycle instead on 12 hours. Either that or the darkness period gave the Nualgi enough of a chance to get ahead and its working.
 
SaltyVixen;972678 wrote: Checklist


- Did you manually remove as much as possible? <u> check, <span style="color: Yellow">i didnt toothbrush it outside the tank</span>, but i did pull ALOT of it out first
</u>-Did you leave the tank in complete darkness even the fuge? <u>Check</u>
-Did you not feed the tank for the time period?<u>No eeding during lights out period</u>
-Did you do a water change to remove some nutrients and dead algae?<u>i changed 40g the morning i turned lights back on</u>

-Most of all did you repeat?
I did repeat a manual removal. I took each piece of rock out and took a toothbrush to it. I did that first hen the glass and such, then did the water change siphoning out any free floating algae. I also had all pumps off while cleaning

If possible <u>remove the rocks from the tank</u> when u do a water change and scrub OUTSIDE of the tank, especially if you aren't running filter socks. With socks it still wont catch 100% of what you may have scrubbed off into the water column.
 
i run gfo and carbon in the brs dual reactor luckily i havent had had to deal with ha im hoping its because of the gfo
 
If you're pulling rocks, just do a peroxide dip....just be cautious with corals.
 
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