Taking Live rock, dead rock, or coral off of the coast of Georgia

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I'm thinking about taking a vacation soon to Tybee island soon and I was wandering if there were any laws in GA against the following questions:
-taking 1 or 2 corals from the ocean to put in my tank
-taking live rock(less than 10 lbs.) from the ocean/beach to put in my tank
-taking dead/base rock(less than 10 lbs.) from the ocean/beach to put in my tank

Thanks
 
126 reef;776355 wrote: I would not really worry about finding any live rock or corals. To cold off of the ga coast for reef building corals

What about just rock with no corals? So I have a natural looking rock from the ocean.
 
I'm fairly certain it's illegal. I know it is in Florida.

Check with DNR about permitting. It is not worth the risk to do it illegally.

Jenn
 
I would not really worry about finding any live rock or corals. To cold off of the ga coast for reef building corals

Has anyone been to Gray's Reef off the Georgia coast here are some pictures...
http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/photos/marine-protected-areas/red-coral-georgia.html">http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/photos/marine-protected-areas/red-coral-georgia.html</a>

Would probably need to be a diver to see anything

Edit: + 1 on Jenn's comment
 
I'm mostly just interested in getting a small rock or two with nothing on it but how do all the people who bring stuff from the ocean to a local fish store do it legally? I mean are there only certain areas you can get these things from? Like I said I'm probably only getting some rock which would only be 5-10 lbs.
 
I don't take in random stuff from the ocean. EXCEPT last year a woman's grandkid brought her back some sea shells and there was a live hermit that survived 2 days in a smelly Ziploc bag.

I know that taking rock in FL is highly illegal.

It's your butt in jail... do what you want. You asked my opinion personally by PM and I advised you.

Jenn
 
I have taken rock from diiferent locations on various cruises, never had a problem getting it through the cruiseline security or customs, but the biggest rock Ive taken was prolly about 3-4lbs.
 
Other issue is the "wild rock" may have some unwated creatures/pest that the naked eye can't see...Ask me how I know:) I bought some 100% wild live rock from somone(It was legally bought from an LFS i won't mention) ended up having a mantis shrimp small to begin with that went un-noticed till $1k later in fish I saw him, then 2+ inches long. Just my 2cents

Chris
 
Different regions have different rules. As I said, check with DNR. I did a quick google but couldn't find specifics and didn't care to spend too much time on it.

If it's illegal, it's not "OK if you don't get caught"...

Years ago I collected a few grass shrimp and such for personal use (before I opened the store) - to feed seahorses. I knew the daily bag limit and whether I needed a fishing license (I didn't because I was collecting from shore) - that was in FL and I printed a copy of the rules and regs in case there was a question about whether what I did was legal - and it was.

To each his own. To me it's not worth the trouble if there is question about the legality or a risk of arrest or a fine.

But hey, that's just me. People will do what they want to do, and justify it however they want to.

Edit: I tried looking up the regs, the page won't load for me: http://coastalgadnr.org/">http://coastalgadnr.org/</a> (Accessed from this page that does load: [IMG]http://www.georgiawildlife.com/fishing/regulations">http://www.georgiawildlife.com/fishing/regulations</a>) For whatever reason the page is hanging.

Jenn
 
I'd just call the Georgia Fish and Wildlife agency and ask them, they do work for us you know! Plus, if there is a license they'll be happy to sell it to you! Further, they might know more about the area you are going to and know of potential hazards. I don't see anything wrong with wanting to feel like your tank came from more than a fish store, but there are alot of risks as have been mentioned. If you do some research, post it to share. This may not be the greatest idea in reef keeping, but just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean the question shouldn't be answered for folks to know
 
I don't think the rocks off Georgia's cost are carbonate rocks. I would think they are more terrigenous clastics. I would not risk putting them in my tank since they are composed of many things we desperately try to keep out of our tanks.

Also, few on ARC will likely tell you "go ahead and collect". Please check with authorities as previously suggested by several folks before you remove anything from coastal waters or shorelines.
 
I have no research to back this up and I am not an expert (but I play one on TV). But, from what I know, the coastal waters are the most polluted portions of the ocean. Collecting anything that you could reach from shore via snorkel, diving, or beach combing could very well be contaminated with something that could nuke your tank.
 
jeep9783;776408 wrote: Other issue is the "wild rock" may have some unwated creatures/pest that the naked eye can't see...Ask me how I know:) I bought some 100% wild live rock from somone(It was legally bought from an LFS i won't mention) ended up having a mantis shrimp small to begin with that went un-noticed till $1k later in fish I saw him, then 2+ inches long. Just my 2cents

Chris

Thats why I try to dip all rocks before putting in my tank.

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JennM;776409 wrote: Different regions have different rules. As I said, check with DNR. I did a quick google but couldn't find specifics and didn't care to spend too much time on it.

If it's illegal, it's not "OK if you don't get caught"...

Years ago I collected a few grass shrimp and such for personal use (before I opened the store) - to feed seahorses. I knew the daily bag limit and whether I needed a fishing license (I didn't because I was collecting from shore) - that was in FL and I printed a copy of the rules and regs in case there was a question about whether what I did was legal - and it was.

To each his own. To me it's not worth the trouble if there is question about the legality or a risk of arrest or a fine.

But hey, that's just me. People will do what they want to do, and justify it however they want to.

Edit: I tried looking up the regs, the page won't load for me: http://coastalgadnr.org/">http://coastalgadnr.org/</a> (Accessed from this page that does load: [IMG]http://www.georgiawildlife.com/fishing/regulations">http://www.georgiawildlife.com/fishing/regulations</a>) For whatever reason the page is hanging.

Jenn[/QUOTE]

Yeah those dnr websites wouldn't load for me last night either.

Edit: [QUOTE=][B]aquavolgp;776420 wrote:[/B] do you just want to grab some because it is free and natural? spend some money on some live rock with your local store and you will be far happier. Walk in to your favorite store and say "this is what i am looking for..." They will order any rock you want. Why pull from the ocean when you dont know what you are getting. Plus most rock you will grab near shore is TERRIBLE compared to the types you can order online or get in the store. The idea is to not only have natural look but also enjoy what the rocks brings to your tank. Live rock is the calcium build up of many many many many years of corals growing and dying. Plus you know you wont have any pests, crabs, mantis, as stated earlier. go buy the rock.[/QUOTE]

No, the whole idea was not to have just another rock that I know I can just go buy at a store but one that I got as a souvenir because this is a semi honey-moon for me and my wife because we didn't really get to go on one. But if getting just a rock with nothing on it is illegal then I won't do it. That's why I wanted to make sure and ask on here 1st.

Edit: [QUOTE=][B]aquavolgp;776434 wrote:[/B] didnt mean to be so direct there. i wasn't trying to be rude.

You are in IT, think of it this way: would you rather get some well known effective virus scan software? or just download some shareware that is labeled "free virus scan"[/QUOTE]

good point...I just thought it would be a good opportuity and I didn't know the rock would be that bad.
 
Wait about 9 months and the souvenir will arrive. :-) And trust me, that kind of souvenir NEVER goes away. hehehehehe
 
I used to live in savannah and asked the dnr agents about driftwood.

Their response was:

Any floating water hazard can be legally removed. Anything on the shore would be illegal to remove.

I asked them about rock:

The agent said: one or two pieces is fine(it IS illegal, but if you get caught they would just ask you too put it back) but collecting large quantities would get you a serious fine.
 
Ripped Tide;776570 wrote: I used to live in savannah and asked the dnr agents about driftwood.

Their response was:

Any floating water hazard can be legally removed. Anything on the shore would be illegal to remove.

I asked them about rock:

The agent said: one or two pieces is fine(it IS illegal, but if you get caught they would just ask you too put it back) but collecting large quantities would get you a serious fine.


Well with the possibility of polution(i.e. oil, or something) being on the rock I may see if we can go the driftwood route and just put it on a mantle like someone suggested.
 
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