Acrylic rod to hold up rock for BB tank?

That one was a bit poorly excecuted. When I do mine all the base rock will have a slant toward the front of the tank so you would have to get very low to see the rods at all. In a bare bottom you would have to decide to scrape coraline off the bottom or not either way.
 
EnderG60;481582 wrote: uhh...why not use eggcrate? its cheap(er) and you can break off small parts / paint them so its not visible....

This isthe reason not to, from the reading I have done. I am no expert, however. For a BB tank to be successful you want detritus to be kept in the water column so it can go into the overflows and be skimmed/filter socked out. BB folks poo-poo using eggcrate becasue the crate can trap detritus in the little squares.

I am only assuming that people like acrylic rods because of the minimal contact point between the rods and the class.

I thought of the half balls because this would make the contact point even smaller and friendly to water flow around the half balls.
 
vista;481587 wrote: There is a great article in the latest issue of Reef Bobbyist Magazine (Is BB right for you?) from page 26 to 29.

If your tank is glass, consider this

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Hi Thanh,
Yea, WWC has Starboard on the bottom of their display tanks. For BB tanks there is argument for and against it. Folks say it is not necessary, but others say it is a good protection against rock falls.

Some also say the white starboard reflects light back up onto the corals.

Personally, I think I will not use it if I go BB here, but mostly because I don't think rock slides will be an issue for me. I usually am quite careful how I place the large pieces, which are really the only ones I'd be concerned about in this tank (famous last words).
 
kayakATL;481595 wrote: What about this dave? You could always use clear, black, any color plastic/acrylic as the bottom layer to put your rods in.

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Example of floating rock with sand.
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You could definitely do it that way as well, but I think for me the half balls are the way to go. That is great for raised rock over a sandbed, but to me seems a bit cluttered to use for a purpose bare bottom tank.

The half balls seem less obtrusive to me in a bare bottom tank.
 
I decided to go with 1" acrylic balls instead of the 1/2 balls, as these would probably be more flexible regarding where you can epoxy them onto the rock. Found a place that sells them at half the price USPlastics does: 75 cents each vs $1.50 each:

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ares;481725 wrote: I think you will be safe without protection, as you use totoka rock, it is very very light and even more sticky with all the little holes, it goes together like a jigsaw puzzle, I used to have trouble stacking fiji boulders, but not totoka.

I must have missed the thread, what has caused you to redo your tank at this point?

I want to do a more open aquascape, and some of the lingering STN issues is making me think maybe I need more flow, which an open scape would allow, and I have a line on a Marineland Deep Dimensions 300 gallon starfire front tank!:D
 
ares;481733 wrote: a size upgrade seems only proper if your going through all the trouble of the rebuild anyway...

Id think about maybe a hidden closed loop too, something to get movement under and inside of the rocks, really important for a barebottom.

I am a bit scared of a closed loop if it means drilling holes in the tank, just from a leakage point of view. What I was thinking is perhaps using the tank returns to flow water down to the bottom and basically have most of the return water flowing out at the back bottom of the tank towards the front through a piece of PVC with multiple holes drilled in it. But I think I would tee off the pipe where it exits each of the overlfows with a lock line tee and valve and feed a little water out like a normal return at the top. Then, in case of a power failure, the two small returns will act as a siphon break so water doesn't siphon from the bottom pipe into the sump and empty the tank.

And I suppose I could incorporate the same idea with a dedicated external pump and just come over the top of the back of the tank as well.

I also thought that another pair of Tunze 6105s aimed at the lower back wall of the tank would also do the same thing. I have four 6105s already that I would transfer over to the new tank.
 
Dave, are you going to do some bonsai aquascape? I'd love to do for my new tank like this
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I think the rods will be much easier to work with. It will be difficult (impossible) to adjust the length of the rounds to compensate for the rocks shapes. I personally would go with the rods. Like mentioned before, you really don't have to drill of you use epoxy. Plus, chances are, you'll have enough holes in the rock to find places for the rods.
 
honeyb627;481470 wrote: when we moved we had it bb for a couple of week. I think mark liked it more than i did. It looked neat don't get me wrong, the fish loved their reflections, and it did look cool especially under the moonlights at night. It just didn't seem right to me. When i think of the ocean, i think of sand. I mean i know you could paint the bottom of the tank, and lose the reflections and seeing the sump if your sump is beneath like ours is. Personally, i think the bottoms with some form of substrate hold beneficial things to the aquariums inhabitants, that you're just going to vacuum away if you have a bb. Not to mention the wider range of livestock you can add to your tank. Seems to me a mature and properly maintained aquarium would benefit from a substrate, more than it would from a bb. But i guess it's all a matter of preference.

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