Amino Acid supplements

[ichthyoid]

While researching organic carbon dosing, I have come to find that supplementing amino acids appears to be critical for coral growth (sps), and especially coloration. I was wondering how many of you dose AA's and if so do you do carbon (aka-vodka, sugar and/or vinegar) too?

Here is a brief article to read, if interested.

 

[ralph atl]

yup.

 

[son of adam]

Seachem Fuel for me.

 

[ichthyoid]

Do any of you dose AA's without carbon, and if so have you seen positive results (please describe, if so). Thx

 

[son of adam]

Not sure I understand the Carbon / aminos that well to answer the question.

 

[ichthyoid]

You mentioned Seachem Reef Fuel use. Do you also dose vodka/sugar and/or vinegar? Also, please describe any benefit you have seen from the AA's or both.

I'm trying to find out if the corals benefit from AA's by themselves, and if so how. Thx

 

[lilrobb]

Umm,
Why wouldn't they benefit from AA alone?
I am dosing them for so long that I don't recall/can imagine if/how corals would look different and mine do very well.

Robb

 

[jcusmarine]

I use: Seachem Fuel + NP Biopellets + Microbacter 7

 

[son of adam]

I just dose to do it. Always have and do not know the other side of the fence here.

 

[ichthyoid]

LilRobb;430349 wrote: Umm,
Why wouldn't they benefit from AA alone?
I am dosing them for so long that I don't recall/can imagine if/how corals would look different and mine do very well.

Robb

I would speculate the same, but was seeking confirmation.

I have found evidence that bacteria resident on the coral's mucosa actually benefit from the inorganic carbon and AA suplementation, and that certain essential AA's are provided via these bacteria to the corals. It is postulated that some of these bacteria are ingested by the corals, hence obtaining the essential AA's/nutrients. There is also research exploring the possibility that some of the bacteria that bloom in an aquarium during carbon dosing are the same species captured and fed upon by the corals. I find all of this very fascinating. It appears that, SPS in particular, corals do actively feed much more than many thought. As opposed to receiving most or all of their nutrition via zooxanthellae. It now seems highly probable that unless we duplicate conditions which provide nutrients for these bacteria, the corals may survive, but will not flourish.

 

[lilrobb]

Check my thread about SPS light demands (and that "feeding" is often neglected) - granted, I have to update it... *shame*

Robb

 

[skriz]

I never really dosed them, but I just spiked the 1000g system with Prodibio Bioptim and Biodigest. Of of them is supposed to add aminos. I'm going to try and add fish quicker than usual; let's see if this stuff does what it's supposed to.

 

[weaglereefer]

Skriz;430360 wrote: I never really dosed them, but I just spiked the 1000g system with Prodibio Bioptim and Biodigest. Of of them is supposed to add aminos. I'm going to try and add fish quicker than usual; let's see if this stuff does what it's supposed to.

We used the Biodigest in BigC07's corner tank and he had fish in it about 2 days after he had water in it. I used it when I did my tank upgrade to head off any possible spikes. Can't say for sure that it was the Prodibio that worked, but neither of our tanks saw spikes.

 

[ralph atl]

5-2 ratio Vodka Vinegar
Elos AA

 

[rostato]

Skriz;430360 wrote: I never really dosed them, but I just spiked the 1000g system with Prodibio Bioptim and Biodigest. Of of them is supposed to add aminos. I'm going to try and add fish quicker than usual; let's see if this stuff does what it's supposed to.

Yup I always add biodigest in my new tanks. So far so good with this product...

I use Elos Omega...GREAT stuff

 

[ichthyoid]

Skriz;430360 wrote: I never really dosed them, but I just spiked the 1000g system with Prodibio Bioptim and Biodigest. Of of them is supposed to add aminos. I'm going to try and add fish quicker than usual; let's see if this stuff does what it's supposed to.

It appears the Bioptim has the AA's supplemented. I have always used Fritz-Zyme#9 for cycling. Five days of rapid cycling with very minor 'bumps' in ammonia and nitrate, then good to go.

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One of the amino acids shown to yield immediate positive response in corals was 'glutamic acid'. Some suppliers show their ingredients, some don't. Some of what I have found comes out of academic research. Also, when glutamic acid was included with food items it caused a 'feeding response' in anemone's, as well. I guess that makes sense, as nem's and corals are both coelenterates. Interesting, no?

 

[glxtrix]

I use to run AA....but that was when I had a BB tank.