Anemone tank?

[superclown]

Playing with some nano ideas in my mind and looking online and was curious
Would I have any issues with housing multiple types of anemones in a 5-10g tank? I was thinking of a couple of rbta and gbta a few small maxi's and a colorful carpet a little bit larger than the others for the main focus.

Maybe a pair of clowns but nothing else for livestock

Obviously I would have to wait for the tank to mature before adding the anemones into the system and have a auto topoff but would I have to dose anything to maintain something like this or is it a bad idea that's doomed for failure

 

[camellia]

Awesome looking!

 

[glxtrix]

That poor YT! Pretty cool though. I use to have a 20g tall that had an RBTA, GBTA and a green carpet. Never had any issues. Sure do miss that tank :/

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[frantz]

If I was a clown fish I'd have to clean off my fins!

 

[cedzaquaddiction]

Ok. Stupid question... How would the tang do around all of those nems? I know the clowns would be ok, but how would the tang, or any other fish for that matter do? Wouldn't the nems sting them?

Flame suit on just in case. LOLz...

 

[greggreenberg]

Premier Aquatics has about 3 in what looks to be a 5 gal (I think breeding tank). The new pet co that opened near me had 2 in what looked to be a 3 gal but they were the same

 

[lifestudent]

Placing several GBTAs or RBTAs in a 5-10 gallon tank might work for a few months, but each of those anemones can get up to 12" or more in diameter. Mine got up to 17" before they split. So for a while you'd be ok, but then it'll get too crowded.

And just so you know, unless the anemones are clones from the same parent, there will be some level of chemical warfare amongst the anemones.

I do not know about small maxi's.

If you do proceed with your idea, I'd love to see photos of it and updates.

 

[glxtrix]

Lifestudent;818092 wrote: Placing several GBTAs or RBTAs in a 5-10 gallon tank might work for a few months, but each of those anemones can get up to 12" or more in diameter. Mine got up to 17" before they split. So for a while you'd be ok, but then it'll get too crowded.

And just so you know, unless the anemones are clones from the same parent, there will be some level of chemical warfare amongst the anemones.

I do not know about small maxi's.

If you do proceed with your idea, I'd love to see photos of it and updates.

Nems will def get large, however if you're not feeding them on a constant basis, they wont grow that fast. As far as chemical warfare goes, I never witnessed anything. And all 3 nems (clearly not cloans) were all in the same area rubbing against each other for the last year of the tank. I had the tank for about 2.5 years with nothing more than a simple hob filter with carbon. Water changes were 1 a month...maybe.

 

[add540]

Yah it may be a poor YT but i see one very happy Clown!

 

[superclown]

Those tanks are nice thanks for sharing. I currently have a maxi and 2rbta in my 30g hoping to soon upgrade to a 60g rimless and a 30g rimless deep blue. Once I do that I'm thinking of setting up the anemano tank chemical warfare was my main concern. Worst case in size I can just sell as they get too big and replace with a smaller one

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[jj ocean]

Chemical warfare is something to watch. I wouldn't be concerned about the bta and maxi's, but I think the poster above had good luck with the haddoni. They tend to have strong chemicals. I kept different species of nems in different tanks, but all plumbed totaling about 500g. My magnificas, crispas and btas all did fine until the haddoni addition. Took the carpet out - everybody great. Put a different one in - same issue. I also ran a lot of carbon.

If you add one, just watch everything carefully. BTAs are pretty resilient, but haddoni's are hard to bring back from set backs.

 

[glxtrix]

JJ Ocean;818209 wrote: Chemical warfare is something to watch. I wouldn't be concerned about the bta and maxi's, but I think the poster above had good luck with the haddoni.

Yes, perhaps I did, but that term "chemical warfare" is like a unicorn to me. I've never witnessed it or seen it with anyone who kept multi species nem tanks. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist...just never seen it personally. And I've had that RBTA for almost 9 years now and it's been housed with almost every type of nem on the market.

 

[superclown]

I have witnessed chemical warfare on extreme measures before. I had a tank go without power for 2 days that was over packed with frags and it nuked the tank. I was actually considering seeing how difficult (expensive) it would be to plumb everything into a larger system but just not sure if it would be worth it.

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[morganatlanta]

I have a friend who literally throws splits from his nem away because his tank would look like that one if he didn't.

 

[superclown]

MorganAtlanta;818320 wrote: I have a friend who literally throws splits from his nem away because his tank would look like that one if he didn't.

next time he is taking out the "trash" I will gladly come get it for him

 

[morganatlanta]

For real. I've gotten three splits from him. Unfortunately, they seem to find a drain or powerhead in my tank.

 

[superclown]

MorganAtlanta;818339 wrote: For real. I've gotten three splits from him. Unfortunately, they seem to find a drain or powerhead in my tank.

Had a friend who got a "super nice" softball sized rainbow anemone and about a week after decided to move into his powerhead and become fish food. Its always horrible when accidents like this happen.

back to the topic I found a anemone I would "love" to find not sure what these go for or how rare they are

 

[jj ocean]

glxtrix;818210 wrote: Yes, perhaps I did, but that term "chemical warfare" is like a unicorn to me. I've never witnessed it or seen it with anyone who kept multi species nem tanks.

Again, maybe you've been lucky ... or maybe I've been unlucky. There's a lot of documented cases of anemone chemical issues. RC probably has at least 8 threads on the topic. Unfortunately, I've seen it with 2 separate haddoni's as described above. I've also had it with magnifica's and merten's on the same system, as well as gigantica's and magnifica's. I too have kept a wide variety of anemones over the years.

Even now, I have a very large magnifica that is really expanding and growing over the course of the last year. In relation, two of my RBTA's on the same system are now declining in relation to the magnifica's growth. There's also a decent number of acros and an achilles tang in the tank that are doing great. Why mention that? ... the magnifica, acros and achilles are infinitely more difficult to keep than the RBTA's, so why are they only declining while the others are thriving? Obviously, there could be a number of factors, but I've seen enough occurrences to believe in chemical conflicts.

I'll also add that I've experienced wide ranges of "potency" within the same species of anemones. The mag I described above will leave irritating stings on any part of my arms if i accidentally brush it during maintenance - all my previous ones never did that. Well, a few only did it on soft parts of skin ... this one doesn't matter.

Anyway, my only point in posting is for the OP to be conscious of the issue for the sake of the animals. Hope all goes well.

 

[superclown]

JJ that was my concern was to not invest my hard earned dollars to basically set up a cage match to the death in glass box. I have noticed that with a carpet I had in the past plus my maxi mini they have felt sticky feeling to the touch almost like a mild superglue or velcro while my bubble tips send a tingly feeling up my wrist but no kind of alergic reactions or rash"

I know its not the best habit to touch things I shouldn't but I was curious

 

[glxtrix]

I would love to see the condition and parms of the tank where the nem keeps splitting. Personally, I don't think a healthy nem in an ideal tank would split. Why would it? The stress the animal goes through is tough as it is....and for it to keep doing that??? something is bothering it. Over the course of the 9 years I've had my nem (granted I did not have it for about a year, but I got a cloan back...and yes, I can trace exactly who had it so I know it's my original one) it has only split for ME maybe 3 times. Of those times it did split, is when I seriously neglected my tank. Now, that's not saying that will always happen, I'm sure there are people who have pristine tanks and nems split....but there are sooooo many factors there...the type of nem, is it a morph, electrical current, other animals or fish bothering, over feeding, flow...blah blah. From my exp...keeping your traditional market nems, with proper husbandry, you shouldn't have any issues.