Another coral pest thread.

[glxtrix]

I run UV and have an unbelievable amount of pods. My tank is BB too.

 

[tokejr]

I had a healthy, but new, pod population and turned on the UV for an algae outbreak and killed every pod in the tank.

I suspect it's the next generation pods (the small ones) that the UV are gonna get. If you have a healthy, established population, you may be OK. But a new tank, with a new pod population is probably at risk to UV.

 

[dough]

ares;350462 wrote: do coral pests exist in the water column?

IE can the a tank plumbed into the system but otherwise isolated keep the pests isolated?

Good question. I think it's a board topic as "Pest" can mean parasites, bacteria, viruses, algae, protozoa etc. Each one can one can be introduced in a variety of ways into a system. Corals, frag plugs, LR etc. There are a number of ways to treat the "issue" including water changes, manual removal, chemical and UV to name a few. And each Pest may require separate specific remedies.

I think it is important to be able to ID the problem/pest and then treat.

I wonder why ARC couldn't do a sticky on ID and treating pests.

Wetwebmdia is a great site for ID and treatment recommendations of pests.

 

[dough]

dawgdude;350533 wrote: Im in the process of trying to do this and putting a thread together now. Im just rounding up other sources and what not to put in with it. I would love to see the wiki get back up but I dont want to put anything else on the admins plate.

Yep saw that earlier and think it's a great idea.

one of my old stand by reference is my '94 addition of "The Reef Aquarium" by Delbeek and Sprung. It's not the most comprehensive but a great quick reference guide.

 

[tokejr]

dawgdude;350529 wrote: I like UVs but it just like driving a car, anyone can use it, but you might want to actually learn how to use it before just throwing it on and patting yourself on the back.

So, Kelsey, who just put a new mandarin in her new tank and is dosing pods SHOULD ADD THAT UV she's contemplating, correct?

Kelsey, please don't add UV to your tank.

 

[glxtrix]

Then you could say that (with adding new pods) it's best to turn off all pumps, UV, skimmer and anything else that can and will circulate/kill/harm pods till they are safe in the sand and rocks. Adding UV to a new system, in my mind is fine. You'll always have pods unless your water is wayyyyy out of wack. Research pod stacks (collection of rock rubble with mesh around) it for pods to populate and reproduce if you're worried about pod population. Then again, that's essentially the same thing as a fuge. Does UV kill pods....sure, if the pods go into it...same goes with most pumps and skimmers....but the chances of ALL your pods....slim.

 

[tokejr]

dawgdude;350579 wrote: Kelsey should have never bought a mandarin for a new tank. Its her own fault for not researching enough to provide a proper home for her animal with which she is responsible in caring for. Just like Lee said pumps, power heads and skimmers all kill pods. Also, it is very difficult to dose enough pods to keep a mandarin alive. You would have to add hundreds of pods per day since all these fish do is comb the tank for pods all day. If Kelsey/Roxanne had read my full post and not just quoted my last portion then she would know she needed to put the UV before the fug so that the fug puts pods into the which is months old tank and has an established pod population. Im bored-to-death with this and feel as though your just trying to find reasons to nit pick what I am saying. I am here to help hobbyists and not defend your hypothetical scenarios.

No, I wasn't nit picking anything you said.

I was simply setting up real life situations and trying to address them. I was TRYING to add to the conversation.

I'll stop now.

In fact, I'm not sure I want to be a member of a club where you are not ALLOWED to ask dumb questions without being put down.

 

[tokejr]

dawgdude;350582 wrote: Explain to me if you are asking a real life situation then why did you then answer your own question with "please don't add UV to your tank". I answered every single question you asked previously and anyone who reads over you comments, its quite clear you are just trying to argue.

Because I had a completely different experience than you do with UV. I, of course, didn't realize that differing opinions and experiences weren't allowed to be discussed.

Once again, I am simply trying to ADD TO THE DISCUSSION with real life posts I've seen on this very board.

 

[ralph atl]

I have a solution.

In addition to my sump/fuge/skimmer below, I have a HOB fuge specifically set up to keep pod population high for my pipefish. I have sand, rock, rubble, cheato, and add a few drops of phyto to feed them every other day. I restock now & then. The pods leave the HOB fuge without going through a pump. This is not for nutrient export, although it does minimal.

 

[tokejr]

ares;350598 wrote: I have dosed reefpods to my tank while running both UV and ozone, I did turn off the powerheads for 15min to let the pods cycle, and I know a fair amount got picked off by the fish before they hit the sand. but all in all, I think the majority got where they are going.

theyd have to go far out of their way to get into the water column and sucked into the low flow of a UV loop. in my case, they have to get to the sump first, then into the UV loop... but yeah,

I suspect your pod population was not entirely wiped out by the addition of UV. I cant prove it of course, but based on my own experience and the research I did before I decided to use UV, Id say that what you describe, if not incorrect, is absolutely the extreme rare case. perhaps the pod population was effected by something else, perhaps you just didnt look for them in the same way, somedays I see them swarming in my fuge, other days... I dont... they are still there of course since they always come back, but I guess somedays they are just... somewhere else that I cant see.

Actually, this is in my 30 which doesn't have a sump or fuge - just an HOB filter and skimmer. At the time, I had just set up the tank, it contained no fish, had completed the cycle and started an algae bloom - about 3 weeks in.

This tank now has them so thick that the adults are pretty scary, they are so large. But, they only came back after I re-dosed with pods.