I'm no SPS expert so I won't pretend to know the magic answer. The frags I got from you are doing great and growing well in my tank and you can come over and frag 'em when you get it sorted out. They're from your colony's so it will be like you never lost 'em. Let me know if you need somethin' I can help you with and hope you get it figured out.
At this rate all my SPS will be dead by next week
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Pretty fast actually - constant flow...
After the Westside Gang showed up here, we came up with following test results:
CA:
600 (Robb/ELOS)
550 (Barry/ELOS)
500 (Cliff/Salifert)
ALK:
5.5meq/l (Robb/Seachem)
19dkH (Robb/API)
21.8dkH (Ansley/Salifert)
21.6dkH (Cliff/Salifert)
MG
1185 (Ansley/Salifert)
1350 (Cliff/Salifert)
So, the parameters are somewhat in check, just ALK is off the chart high
- anyone with a good idea on
a) how to counter steer
b) what caused this?
Thanks Robb
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running a calcium reactor right?
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Did you guys mix some of the salt that you have been using and compare the two.
the reason I ask is if you had your calcium reactor set up to adjust one type salt mix it may have been too much for another salt mix with already higher levels.
the reason I ask is if you had your calcium reactor set up to adjust one type salt mix it may have been too much for another salt mix with already higher levels.
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sorry wish I had more ideas.
Robb-
This is the best reference I know of for describing/diagnosing these issues.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm</a>
If you add a little acid, it should drop the alkalinity. See below-
[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2002/chemistry.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2002/chemistry.htm</a>
High alkalinity is known to burn sps tips, and this sounds like what is going on. (although I see no reason why, only water changes-?) JMHO
This is the best reference I know of for describing/diagnosing these issues.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm</a>
If you add a little acid, it should drop the alkalinity. See below-
[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2002/chemistry.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2002/chemistry.htm</a>
High alkalinity is known to burn sps tips, and this sounds like what is going on. (although I see no reason why, only water changes-?) JMHO
You definitely need to check the freshly mixed water also. I have seen a thread on RC lately where people have been getting 420 calcium 9 DKH and 1350 mag readings out of there IO buckets. If you adjusted expecting lower calcium and Alk this might be the problem.
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I'm sure you are running a controller on the calcium reactor. Rob it almost has to be the calcium reactor. Does it run around the clock?
<p style="text-align:left"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">This is what Randy Holmes-Farley recommends- FWIW</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">Several references site tissue release and/or burning above this.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">21.7 dKH=7.75 meq=387.5ppm</span></span>
http://www.saltyzoo.com/SaltyCalcs/AlkConv.php">http://www.saltyzoo.com/SaltyCalcs/AlkConv.php</a>
...and, hasn't the Seachem salt/borate issue been addressed somewhat(?) At any rate, I believe that he used IO salt, so that does not apply in this case. The levels below should apply, as is.
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14px"></span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14px">[B]Recommended Ranges[/B]</span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px"> </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">Before getting into problems and solutions, let’s first define what constitutes a problem and what does not. Based on [IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/apr2002/chem.htm">published studies</a>3 involving the calcification of corals and other organisms, I recommend the following: </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2002/chemistry.htm">Alkalinity</a>2 (due to bicarbonate and carbonate but not borate, so those using Seachem salt must raise this value substantially to accommodate the borate being counted in standard alkalinity tests) </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">2.5 - 4 meq/L or 7 - 11 dKH or 125 - 200 ppm CaCO3 equivalents</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">Calcium: </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">380 – 450 ppm calcium ion or 950 - 1125 ppm CaCO3 equivalents</span></span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">Several references site tissue release and/or burning above this.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">21.7 dKH=7.75 meq=387.5ppm</span></span>
http://www.saltyzoo.com/SaltyCalcs/AlkConv.php">http://www.saltyzoo.com/SaltyCalcs/AlkConv.php</a>
...and, hasn't the Seachem salt/borate issue been addressed somewhat(?) At any rate, I believe that he used IO salt, so that does not apply in this case. The levels below should apply, as is.
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14px"></span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14px">[B]Recommended Ranges[/B]</span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px"> </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">Before getting into problems and solutions, let’s first define what constitutes a problem and what does not. Based on [IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/apr2002/chem.htm">published studies</a>3 involving the calcification of corals and other organisms, I recommend the following: </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">[IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2002/chemistry.htm">Alkalinity</a>2 (due to bicarbonate and carbonate but not borate, so those using Seachem salt must raise this value substantially to accommodate the borate being counted in standard alkalinity tests) </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">2.5 - 4 meq/L or 7 - 11 dKH or 125 - 200 ppm CaCO3 equivalents</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">Calcium: </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">380 – 450 ppm calcium ion or 950 - 1125 ppm CaCO3 equivalents</span></span></span>
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