best way to get rid of Ick

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Just like the title says. I have gotten ick in my DT and need to know the best way to get rid of it. It is a mixed reef system and is a 40 gal cube. Thanks in advance.
 
I have entirely too much money and time invested in my system to take any chances. I had to go thru Hell to save my fish and I don't want to go thru that again. I lost 2 fish and had to totally dismantle my aquascape. I have a set of Perculas that I have had since 96, so they are like family. My fish got so bad that I had to pull them out of my Reef and treat them in a hospital tank for 3 weeks. The feedings of Metro didn't get it done for me. It seemed to keep the Ich at bay, but none of my fish got better from the Metro treatment/feedings alone. The guys are correct on the lighting and feedings, but I'm going the route of prevention.

By the way Paraguard was great in the hospital tank. Ich was gone in 3 days.
 
I do not have a UV but all fish are eating well and i only see it on one fish at this time and it happens to be the newest one added to the tank. i will shorten the light cycle and continue to feed. should i soak food in garlic as a help/prevention?
 
Get the UV!!! If you lose a good bit of your fish you will wish you had. Read one of the most informative posts in the history of the site by Mojo. Helped me an awful lot.

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When my tang had ich I loaded the food with selcon, Zoe and metronidazole, with some focus......he's all good now :-)
 
By all means soak your food in garlic, get some selcon and metro. When you can get a uv do so.

gixxer600;454638 wrote: I do not have a UV but all fish are eating well and i only see it on one fish at this time and it happens to be the newest one added to the tank. i will shorten the light cycle and continue to feed. should i soak food in garlic as a help/prevention?
 
dawgdude;454725 wrote: Agreed 100%!!!

DO NOT REMOVE THE FISH!!! I hear so many people say you should remove the fish and put them through more stress just to rid them of something that will not kill them on its own. I have seen a lot of people just up the feeding and boost the immune with garlic, HUFA and metro/focus and the fish live. I have seen a lot of people set up a qt tank, move the fish over, they stop eating and die. I have never had a fish die from ich, it was a stressor that allowed something else to take them out but a healthy well fed fish wont die from ich so just keep them healthy and you will be fine. Remove them and stress them more and.....well IMO it wont end well for the fish.

+1. The only time I removed the fish was as a last-ditch effort when they (yes, they) wouldn't eat at all anyway. After speaking at length with Chris and others, I am convinced the fish were cyanide-caught and had digestive system damage. Several other club members I talked to had exactly the same issue with very high mortality rates from the same source. I won't name the source as it is not a problem anymore.
 
dawgdude;454725 wrote: agreed 100%!!!

Do not remove the fish!!! I hear so many people say you should remove the fish and put them through more stress just to rid them of something that will not kill them on its own. I have seen a lot of people just up the feeding and boost the immune with garlic, hufa and metro/focus and the fish live. I have seen a lot of people set up a qt tank, move the fish over, they stop eating and die. I have never had a fish die from ich, it was a stressor that allowed something else to take them out but a healthy well fed fish wont die from ich so just keep them healthy and you will be fine. Remove them and stress them more and.....well imo it wont end well for the fish.
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Well, I have to disagree, if we are aiming to do what the OP asked-you will NEVER get rid of ick by leaving the fish in the tank. It may not be an issue, but it will be there- no doubt about it. Just out of curiosity, why do people think that feeding metronidazole/focus is a good treatment for ick? Treating the water, maybe, but feeding it? I dont understand why this is suggested.
 
jmaneyapanda;454738 wrote: Well, I have to disagree, if we are aiming to do what the OP asked-you will NEVER get rid of ick by leaving the fish in the tank. It may not be an issue, but it will be there- no doubt about it. Just out of curiosity, why do people think that feeding metronidazole/focus is a good treatment for ick? Treating the water, maybe, but feeding it? I dont understand why this is suggested.

Correct of course. I think we are all somewhat guilty of letting ourselves think if it isn't showing on the fish it is "gone". In the year I have had my tank up, I have have had a few (literally) specks show up on two fish, for about three days and never again, but I know it could happen again even with no new introductions.
 
Dont get me wrong. Ick doesnt scare me in the slightest. But, that being said, it can lead to deadlier problems if not given notice. But, if someone did want to banish ick from their tank permanently, they could do so with some efforts, but not without treatemenst or going fallow.
 
jmaneyapanda;454752 wrote: Dont get me wrong. Ick doesnt scare me in the slightest. But, that being said, it can lead to deadlier problems if not given notice. But, if someone did want to banish ick from their tank permanently, they could do so with some efforts, but not without treatemenst or going fallow.
I agree, I think a lot of us have learned to live with it. I think thats the rule of thought with the metro. I think its for secondary infection? My understanding is it has no effect on ick.
 
thanks for the advice. looks like its time for garlic and a little bit of treatment. thanks guys

Mathew
 
I absolutly agree with you, my response was geared more towards the op's last question opposed to his original question. It is my belief that feeding metro and focus will address protozoan and anaerobic bacterial infections brought on by the lowered immune system caused by ick. Treating the water will in fact destroy the free floating ich but do nothing to the ich within the fish. The objective (for me) is to build the immune system and in turn the health of the fish. Unless you run fallow for the appropriate amount of time (what that is, well is debatable) and place ALL fish in a quarintine system (again how long is debateable) and every new fish as well. You will have ICH. OH WELL if you get ich, lower temp, feed properly, decrease photoperiod and dont panic they should be fine.

It only takes one slip of tossing a fish into the display and skipping quarintine, or taking a fish out of quarintine 1 day early and you are back to square one.

Man I wish there one good cut and dry solution to parasite treatment, but there isnt.

Jeremy, teach us something new please. What is your method for keeping parasite free.

Chris

jmaneyapanda;454738 wrote: Well, I have to disagree, if we are aiming to do what the OP asked-you will NEVER get rid of ick by leaving the fish in the tank. It may not be an issue, but it will be there- no doubt about it. Just out of curiosity, why do people think that feeding metronidazole/focus is a good treatment for ick? Treating the water, maybe, but feeding it? I dont understand why this is suggested.
 
jmaneyapanda;454738 wrote: Well, I have to disagree, if we are aiming to do what the OP asked-you will NEVER get rid of ick by leaving the fish in the tank. It may not be an issue, but it will be there- no doubt about it. Just out of curiosity, why do people think that feeding metronidazole/focus is a good treatment for ick? Treating the water, maybe, but feeding it? I dont understand why this is suggested.


While I agree with all that you have stated, metro/focus can reduce secondary infections. some have stated some success in treatment also.

The tank must remain fallow or treated or the ich will continue to thrive in your tank. I know many members fish that have died by ich by just feeding alone.

http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23214">http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23214</a>


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ANYWAY, Jeremy knows his fish, so listen to him above all on this forum[B]..................................(only concerning fish that is)[/B] lol
 
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