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I've read about humans being able to catch TB from fish on "the internet" somewhere before. I'm assuming that was kind of a joke; however, my mother works for the CDC and one of her old bosses made her all worried about "ALL the germs in a fishtank!" .... my response, germs are everywhere dude!

so... has anyone ever gotten sick from having their hands in an aquarium or what not? Probably kinda hard to prove it was caused by keeping a reef but ya... anyone? Ill be forwarding this thread to my mother... lol

Thx!
 
I've heard numerous allergic reactions, but to my knowledge, I don't know of anybody or ever remember reading about an individual just becoming sick because of having their hands in the tank.
 
yes...

I caught TB from mine..

Edit: I posted something about it on the internet..
 
Only time i have been sick is when I dropped a dead lion fish and decided to grab it by hand and it pricked me. It felt like I had food poisoning I was down and out the rest of the day
 
There are a lot of nasty germs in tanks.

The bacterium that your Mom is referring to is Vibrio. It's rare, but we experienced a nasty outbreak of it many years ago. It all but wiped us out (bad shipment of fish).

It's a similar bacterium to that which causes TB, but I'm not positive that it's the same - I've never heard of anyone contracting TB from their aquarium.

Another nasty is Mycobacteriosis. That can cause a nasty infection in people and it takes forever to heal, irrigation of the wounds daily with saline, and a big nasty regimen of antibiotics. I have a friend who had this once, and it was miserable. One thing that one should always do when working in a tank, is take a moment to wipe the rim/trim before putting an arm in. Salt buildup around the rim can rough up the skin on one's arm, and open the door to infection. This happens to a lot of people. My old boss used to get a rash occasionally on his arm, on the inside of his arm up near the armpit, because of that very activity - salt roughed the skin a bit raw and whatever bacteria were there, had a gateway. Some people are more sensitive to this than others, but it's a good safety practice to wipe away salt before starting - an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. After seeing his rashes, and hearing about others who contracted some pretty serious infections, for me, it's automatic to wipe the rim first, whether I see caked up salt or not.

It's also a good practice to wash hands/arms after being in the water, and especially after handling corals. All corals produce toxins as a defense mechanism, and some are pretty nasty. Palythoa and zoanthids make some of the worst toxins. Palytoxin in particular is very nasty, and it's one of the most complex carbon chain molecules on the planet. I saw a lecture at SWU back in 05 where a scientist explained it all - bottom line, it's really really bad to ingest this stuff. Always wash. I know of people who have ingested it or even inhaled it and have become really sick. One fellow on RC a few years ago, tried to eradicate some zoas by taking them outside and pouring boiling water on the rocks. He accidentally inhaled the steam and ended up in hospital and nearly died. He now has to use a rescue inhaler regularly, and he never had any breathing issues prior to that mishap.

Scott here at the shop has accidentally got zoa slime in his mouth a few times - his lip goes numb and he has a metal taste in his mouth for a few days. Fortunately for him, that's been the extent of his malaise... after once you'd think he'd be more careful, but it's happened to him a few times.

And of course there are venoms from rabbitfishes, lionfishes, urchins, etc., that usually isn't life-threatening (except for allergic reaction), but it can put someone in a world of hurt. Accidental tagging should be dealt with by running the hottest water you can tolerate, over the wound, and it's not a bad idea to use the uninjured hand to make sure the water isn't scalding you, because the pain from the venom might mask the pain of being scalded. Heat breaks down the venom. Always good to visit the ER after a tag, just in case a spine is left in the skin.

Yep, our tanks have plenty of perils, but reasonable care and common sense should prevent any adverse affects.

Jenn
 
Bacteria are ubiquitous (everywhere). Most are harmless because we have adapted to them. Some have disease causing species/strains (pathogens).

Examples:

Escherichia coli (E. coli) are found in our digestive tract and help digest our food. Some other strains cause food poisoning. A few can be deadly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli</a>

Vibrio is a genus of bacteria. Most are harmless. Several are pathogenic. Some cause gastrointeritis while others cause cholera (Vibrio cholerae).

[IMG]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrio">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrio</a>

There are also viruses and fungi present in aquariums as well. These generally follow the above, in that some cause disease but most are harmless.

So,
-Wash your hands after putting them in tank water, and
-Avoid putting hands with injuries in tank water

However, don't freak out over a few bugs either. -JMHO
 
Mom always said you have to eat a peck of dirt before you die! :)
 
JennM;654065 wrote: Mom always said you have to eat a peck of dirt before you die! :)

these days.. it could be the peck of dirt that kills you...
 
Someone else found a story about this and posted it in another thread:

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What about SCUBA divers. if the germs are on the rock, would it not follow that they are in the water. i know when i have gone diving, i have ingested sea water. i have scraped my hand or knee when bumping into a wreck. would divers be more at risk since we are totally surrounded by sea water?
 
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