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I have a 125 tank 6 feet long and i have 11 fishes on the tank I don't want to get red of them but I been haven't problems whit nitrates some one tell me to get a denitrater and is about $400.00 I don't mined purchase one my question is it really going to work .

I really need to make a decicion on this one but I need your experience.
 
There's a lot more to this situation than what you've explained.

What kind </em>of fish?
What are your nitrates?
What are your maintenance habits?
What support equipment do you have?
 
Ok l have a 40 gallon sump, reef octopus 150, refugium,4 koralia, phosban 150 reactor about 200 pounds of live rock
Fish
Unicorn tang 5 inch
Blond naso tang 4 inch
Yellow tang 3 inch
Tominic tang 3 inch
2 percula clown fish 2 inch
2 wrasse 3 inch
Blue regal tang
Salfin tang
Last one lion fish

I know its a lot of fish but I'm been having this fish for a long time and I don't want ti get rid of them

Edit: Nitrates about 40
 
I know but a reef tank whit out fish to me it doesn't look good thas why my question should I purchase the denitrater is it going to help ?

Edit: I know but a reef tank whit out fish to me it doesn't look good thas why my question should I purchase the denitrater is it going to help ?
 
angel;871253 wrote: I know but a reef tank whit out fish to me it doesn't look good thas why my question should I purchase the denitrater is it going to help ?

Edit: I know but a reef tank whit out fish to me it doesn't look good thas why my question should I purchase the denitrater is it going to help ?

Id Upgrade that skimmer and try to lesson my fish load honestly if it was me.

I dont use one of those and never have.
 
barry_keith;871255 wrote: Kris is right, thats a lot of messey eaters that get big.

A larger skimmer and or skim wet, seachem matrix, carbon dosing...

+1 to these guys

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I agree with the others. I would add more water changes as well. The solution is dilution. Look at it this way. If I am going to exceed the bio load recommendations then I will need to exceed the normal means of controlling the nutrients associated with that bio load.

One more thing. As those fish grow in size they are going to be running out of room. The clowns at the circus can all fit in the tiny car for a few minutes but how would they do if they had to stay in it for their entire lives? If you don't want to rehome them, you should start looking into a much bigger tank.


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barry_keith;871255 wrote: Kris is right, thats a lot of messey eaters that get big.

A larger skimmer and or skim wet, seachem matrix, carbon dosing...

rdnelson99;871266 wrote: I agree with the others. I would add more water changes as well. The solution is dilution. Look at it this way. If I am going to exceed the bio load recommendations then I will need to exceed the normal means of controlling the nutrients associated with that bio load.

One more thing. As those fish grow in size they are going to be running out of room. The clowns at the circus can all fit in the tiny car for a few minutes but how would they do if they had to stay in it for their entire lives? If you don't want to rehome them, you should start looking into a much bigger tank.


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+1 you should definitely increase your methods filtration and add some biomedia as i didnt see any listed. and as rich said these fish will get very large and will be cramped in that tank as they grow especially with 200 pounds of rock to share the space with.
 
But you can make a sulphur denitrator out of an old cheap calcium reactor and they work great. Lots of proven examples.
 
jamescook;871275 wrote: But you can make a sulphur denitrator out of an old cheap calcium reactor and they work great. Lots of proven examples.


Dang that sounds neat James , any plans /pics by chance?? still waiting pics:yay:
 
To answer the op's question, yes, denitrators can work very well.

Just like having a system to remove phosphates, i.e., GFO, most aquarists find that they need a system for removing nitrates, I.e., denitrators.

They might be your best bang for the buck in the long term and easiest to maintain, however, they have their caveats, such as with a sulphur based if you don't keep an eye it it it can produce gas that kills everything in your tank(this might be rare, but worth noting).

Large weekly water changes are easy....if your tank is less than 100 gallons or so.

Carbon dosing, I.e. bio pellets, Vodka dosing, VSV, vit C, etc.

Seachem Matrix rock can assist.

Activated carbon can also assist.

And there are more....

Definately research before you do any and multiple, as all have caveats.

I dose vodka, change high quality carbon weekly, skim, large water changes, and use Seachem matrix and my trates in a heavily stocked tank stay around 0.5 over the long term.

I use GFO for phates (1 cup of HC GFO) that I change weekly (even though some of the other things that I do to degrease nitrates, does help phates, it's not enough for SPS.





And more...
 
I just put the sulphur in an old coralife calcium reactor, plugged the probe hole with a glass thermometer and ran it. It takes a week or so to seed it and a week or so later nitrates will drop with just a steady drip.
 
jamescook;871408 wrote: I just put the sulphur in an old coralife calcium reactor, plugged the probe hole with a glass thermometer and ran it. It takes a week or so to seed it and a week or so later nitrates will drop with just a steady drip.


Thanks James
 
Thanks to everybody for your help today was very sad I took 4 of my big fish to my LFS to trade them in and my kids and wife sad but I have my sealf $400.00 credit I guess I can give me more corals now I'm not very happy but I think I did the right think I took my big unicorn, selfin tang, lion fish and yellow tang and 1 more to go tomorrow.
 
A "waterfall" style algae scrubber might help as well. See
a> for info.  There's a guy named Floyd on that forum that makes nice acrylic ones for sale, but you can DIY a pretty decent one to try it out for $20.  I wouldn't rely on it as your sole filtration, but growing and harvesting algae will definitely reduce your nitrates.
 
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