Entire Tank Using One Outlet?

[billsfan]

60 million. And I thought a 10,000 dollar rewire was big. Congrats on that . But im glad you will be taking all of the 8 hour test and not me. The iec has some good pre courses for the test. 4 hours a night once a week for 6 or 8 weeks.

 

[eagle9252]

<span style="color: Blue">now that 'm home and not trying to type all that on the stupid phone while trying to LQQK at washers and dryers and read paperwork</span>

rdnelson99;822261 wrote: Sorry Charles but that is not the case. If only on receptacle is on a circuit it must be rated equal to or greater than the rating of the circuit. No exception. If you put a 15 amp receptacle on a dedicated 20 amp circuit you could draw 20 amps without tripping the breaker thereby overloading the receptacle putting you at risk of fire. #12 gauge is now and always has been #12 gauge. If it were anything less it would not be #12 gauge.

<span style="color: Blue">well... maybe the hole on the strippers just got bigger. LOL as with anything they have downsized stuff over the years. a 16p nail now is no where the same size as before. they even took the extra paper from the double mint gum. </span>

<span style="color: blue">your correct it should be recp and wire with and undersized breaker not a smaller receptical. this was the begining of the gfic era and the recepticals were not out yet so you had to use a gfic breaker. this meant all of the stuff that needed it was daisy chained through the house</span>

Some of the things you did when wiring those homes were not required by code. They were not against it but also not required.

What all of that means is that in a home, I could almost put all lighting and receptacles on on circuit with a few exceptions. The home owner would not like it much but by code it would be fine.

<span style="color: blue">it's very frustrating to have 1 and a 1/2 rooms on a breaker we never had any heating issues due to having everything over sized. that's why i said high end. not the normal or going overboard. i have worked on houses that all of the panels and rooms were overloaded and maxed out. with no more room to add something. even a sub panel as the main was undersized to handle the extra load</span>

 

[rdnelson]

Terry Rogers still teaching that class? I took it 17 years ago when I first moved here. It was about a year after I passed the test in AL. Yes, I do everything backwards. LOL

 

[frantz]

Something like this would work if "probes" scare ya a bit! You'd have to unplug everything but it beats doing MATHS to figure out amp usage. We used these when I had a travel trailer all the time to make sure we didn't blow our little breaker.

 

[rdnelson]

Frantz, that will tell you what the load is at the one outlet but will not include anything else that may be plugged into that same circuit via another outlet. But it will give you a good idea of at least how much the tank is drawing with all items.

 

[frantz]

Yes, sorry I should have been more clear. He could test static loads on the other outlets first. I just realize in today's world a lot of people get a little scared of tools and this is one that you just plug in and it gives you the info. I realize it's not the most effective way to test, but its "post modern" friendly (-=

 

[heathlindner25]

yeah I just pull my panel cover off pull up a little black wire my tank is hooked to and take a reading with my trusty t-5 600 oh yeah I usually take off my wedding ring

 

[eagle9252]

heathlindner25;822381 wrote: yeah I just pull my panel cover off pull up a little black wire my tank is hooked to and take a reading with my trusty t-5 600 oh yeah I usually take off my wedding ring

at work we now have to dress up in a Darth Vader suit for arc flash protection on anything over 50volts if it's live. a bit overboard for the most part but its a requirement ... urghh

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[rdnelson]

Several years ago a company I worked for spent $10,000.00 on PPE and then told everyone they were not allowed to take a panel cover off while it was still energized. Couldn't even make a live tap in a J-Box. But, since they had a fatality a couple years earlier it was hard to argue the point with the safety director.

 

[eagle9252]

yeap, the overboard part was mostly for home use. i have no problem working things live as it was how i learned. treat everything hot and never stand in front of a panel or disconnect while turning it on.

i never had heard the one hand in pocket until i went through the arc flash training about 8 months ago.

am i overly anal about safety? sometimes and sometimes i'm just ANAL!!

but how i do things personally is me but how i tell someone and or train them the correct and or safest way. i tell them if you want to take short cuts and deviate away for this it's on you.

 

[mphammer]

Does the fact that I live in an apartment change anything?
Honestly Im a bit more confused now than from the start

heathlindner25;822216 wrote: Ah, I'm sure he's done all the vacuuming in he's going to do, and it hasn't trip yet...lol.

I like this ideology.. makes the most sense to me :yes:

 

[acroholic]

mphammer;822453 wrote: Does the fact that I live in an apartment change anything?
Honestly Im a bit more confused now than from the start

You are not alone. Rich and eagle lost me many posts ago.

If it is working, don't fix it. Worry about it if your breaker starts tripping.

 

[eagle9252]

Acroholic;822464 wrote: You are not alone. Rich and eagle lost me many posts ago.

If it is working, don't fix it. Worry about it if your breaker starts tripping.

Honestly that's the easiest thing to do unless an overheated connection starts a fire. Mostly we were speaking of an what if and overloading a breaker

If the breaker starts tripping the the overall load could be too much and could weaken tbe breaker to start tripping

 

[rdnelson]

Acroholic;822464 wrote: You are not alone. Rich and eagle lost me many posts ago.

If it is working, don't fix it. Worry about it if your breaker starts tripping.

LOL. Sorry guys. It is kind how I feel when you start talking about calcium reactors LOL. But back to the OPs question. I think you are fine. . Was that better?

 

[heathlindner25]

mphammer;822453 wrote: Does the fact that I live in an apartment change anything?
Honestly Im a bit more confused now than from the start


I like this ideology.. makes the most sense to me :yes:

f you give me some gas money I'd be glad to come over and check the load out for you. Pm me, but since you live in a apartment there's not much you're going to be able to do about anything.

 

[eagle9252]

rdnelson99;822469 wrote: LOL. Sorry guys. It is kind how I feel when you start talking about calcium reactors LOL. But back to the OPs question. I think you are fine. . Was that better?

Yeap.... same here