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i'm glad i wrote up what happened because I now have a chalk bass stuck in my overflow. I was scratching my head trying to remember the issues I had when I fished the other fish out (zebra bar goby) and then i remembered this thread hehe. Now to do it without nearly flooding my upstairs office! Hopefully I flushed most of the dead snail shells last time, I might try to fish out any i can find before pulling the stand pipe for the excitement again.