If we look back, Rajfish starts out in the 1st sentence that he bought them...Why can we not just help him from "after" he bought them instead of questioning his lack or no lack of judgement?? Im just asking the question...although I feel I'll get criticized for this post...
Fu Manchu Sea Horses: Need more info
- Thread starter rajfish
- Start date
- Messages
- 3,379
- Reaction score
- 4
Raj:
As I mentioned before, I think you will end up regretting putting the horses in with those fish, but hopefully it will work out. If these are in fact reidi horses, I dont think they're drawfs. From my recollection, reidis can grow quite big. This is perhaps something to double check. Good luck, and I hope they do well.
As I mentioned before, I think you will end up regretting putting the horses in with those fish, but hopefully it will work out. If these are in fact reidi horses, I dont think they're drawfs. From my recollection, reidis can grow quite big. This is perhaps something to double check. Good luck, and I hope they do well.
Hahahaha. I think that everyone's tension is still brewing from that 300 post forum about the utility of LFS.
I think Trynga nailed it. I bought them. I did research. I also sold my lawnmower blenny to a neighbor. My horses are doing great. clinging to stuff, eating frozen food.
I think people get the impression I buy then ask in retrospect if it was the right thing. I should have told you guys I know people in my neighborhood (non-ARC people. Working professionals who came from other cities but don't want to comingle with fellow reefers) who give me advice.
I only come here to find snippets of info I might have missed.
Once I told my friend I was getting horses, he cautioned me about my clowns and mower. So, he got them.
My remaining fish are : Caudern, Dwarf angel, two sea horses That is it. I'm just going to add some softies and raise it as is.
Take care guys,
Chill out, and don't get so mad over posts. We are all adults (most of us).
Rajfish
I think Trynga nailed it. I bought them. I did research. I also sold my lawnmower blenny to a neighbor. My horses are doing great. clinging to stuff, eating frozen food.
I think people get the impression I buy then ask in retrospect if it was the right thing. I should have told you guys I know people in my neighborhood (non-ARC people. Working professionals who came from other cities but don't want to comingle with fellow reefers) who give me advice.
I only come here to find snippets of info I might have missed.
Once I told my friend I was getting horses, he cautioned me about my clowns and mower. So, he got them.
My remaining fish are : Caudern, Dwarf angel, two sea horses That is it. I'm just going to add some softies and raise it as is.
Take care guys,
Chill out, and don't get so mad over posts. We are all adults (most of us).
Rajfish
I know when Linda offered me her suncoral, I took it not knowing the first thing about how to care for it, I just knew I wanted it. It's been about 3 weeks or 4 weeks that its been in my tank, and doing well. I just had to make the effort to play "catch-up" on how to keep it happy. I think that's part of the hobby, wanting something and then adjusting your system for parameters to keep it. If you listen to the experts, you should only have anemones in species specific tanks, same with sps and softies. This hobby is all about bending the rules, this forum is all about sharing ideas and different ways of doing things.
I won't be engaging in any fish purchases. I have fallen for horses.
THey are great. Plus I have a great ecosystem going. My dwarf yellow lemon peel (eating EVERYTHING! Frozen, flakes, algae, but leaving corals alone), is the star. My caudern is cool and just floats along.
My dwarf seahorses keep doing their mating dance. I expect kids soon.
All I really need is frags from you guys. Softies are great with seahorses (as are gorgonians). I can't make the meeting as I work and go to school. I work on Tuesday. Maybe I could meet one of you guys in L'ville once.
Overall, my experience with saltwater fish has not been bad. I only lost two fish though everyone thinks I lost one-hundred:
(1) My flamem angel (QT accident)
(2) Flame goby (killed by Clarkii)
The two Clarkii and lawnmower blenny are safely in someone else's tank now.
Here are the final contents of my tank, pending addition of further corals:
(1) Dwarf Lemon Peel
(2) Caudern Cardinal
(3) 2 Dwarf Sea Horses
(4) 2 Peppermint shrimp
(5) Crabs
(6) Snails
(7) Green Mushroom Coral
(8) Pulsing Xenia
(9) Pink Mushrom Coral (One of Brandon's frags survived on one side of a rock and I didn't notice until it started growing big).
(10) Green button polyps
My plan now is just to tend things and let the eco-system mature. I am not going to even THINK about getting a bigger tank for 1 year. I want a fully mature 29g first. Corralline, corals, the whole nine yards. I don't want to be a tank jumper that upgrades every chance he gets.
Now and again, I will add a small coral frag.
That's that.
Again, any frag donations are welcome.
Skriz, you live in L'ville right? We should meet up. I want to see your 700g tank!
Rajas
THey are great. Plus I have a great ecosystem going. My dwarf yellow lemon peel (eating EVERYTHING! Frozen, flakes, algae, but leaving corals alone), is the star. My caudern is cool and just floats along.
My dwarf seahorses keep doing their mating dance. I expect kids soon.
All I really need is frags from you guys. Softies are great with seahorses (as are gorgonians). I can't make the meeting as I work and go to school. I work on Tuesday. Maybe I could meet one of you guys in L'ville once.
Overall, my experience with saltwater fish has not been bad. I only lost two fish though everyone thinks I lost one-hundred:
(1) My flamem angel (QT accident)
(2) Flame goby (killed by Clarkii)
The two Clarkii and lawnmower blenny are safely in someone else's tank now.
Here are the final contents of my tank, pending addition of further corals:
(1) Dwarf Lemon Peel
(2) Caudern Cardinal
(3) 2 Dwarf Sea Horses
(4) 2 Peppermint shrimp
(5) Crabs
(6) Snails
(7) Green Mushroom Coral
(8) Pulsing Xenia
(9) Pink Mushrom Coral (One of Brandon's frags survived on one side of a rock and I didn't notice until it started growing big).
(10) Green button polyps
My plan now is just to tend things and let the eco-system mature. I am not going to even THINK about getting a bigger tank for 1 year. I want a fully mature 29g first. Corralline, corals, the whole nine yards. I don't want to be a tank jumper that upgrades every chance he gets.
Now and again, I will add a small coral frag.
That's that.
Again, any frag donations are welcome.
Skriz, you live in L'ville right? We should meet up. I want to see your 700g tank!
Rajas
i wouldnt get corals for a tank with seahorses it is just something i wouldnt prefer. if you really want corals you can always put them in a small tank and plumb it in with this one and you will be all set. i will be getting some frags of red and green zoas, kenya trees, and yellow polyps if you want to buy any of them wait a month or two and pm me.
- Messages
- 187
- Reaction score
- 0
Hey get some Gorgonias!!!! Good luck and well this is a scenceless post without pictures:yes: ...
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/3-gorgonia-1-purple-whip-1-yellow-whip-soft-coral-reef_W0QQitemZ220156330070QQihZ012QQcategoryZ46308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem">>>>>>Gorgonias<<<<</a>
Here is a good site for Seahorses and I am not sure, but I think the person gives you a discount if you join seahourses.org.
[IMG]http://ccritters.com/index.html">http://ccritters.com/index.html</a>
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/3-gorgonia-1-purple-whip-1-yellow-whip-soft-coral-reef_W0QQitemZ220156330070QQihZ012QQcategoryZ46308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem">>>>>>Gorgonias<<<<</a>
Here is a good site for Seahorses and I am not sure, but I think the person gives you a discount if you join seahourses.org.
[IMG]http://ccritters.com/index.html">http://ccritters.com/index.html</a>
I am very confused after reading this thread. You say that you have done your research, but it is obvious that you simply have not done enough, or possibly have been doing research on the wrong topics. It seems that you are uncertain of what type of seahorses they are, and that should be adressed before anything else. there is no such thing as a "fu manchu" seahorse.... You also seem to be confused on dwarf seahorses... If you think they are reidi's then, they are NOT dwarf seahorses (which would be Hippocampus Zosterae).
It sounds like you have small H. Reidi's and you need to act according to the parameters of their care needs, and not those of the zosterae. If they are already 3-4 inches long, you can rule out that they could even possibly be dwarf seahorses, since at BEST the dwarves are gonna be about an inch long. Dwarf seahorses have completely different care requirements from the rest of the species' of seahorses and need to be dealt with accordingly.
You selection of tankmates is not an ideal choice for any type of seahorse. The angel and the blenny, specifically, both have tendencies towards fast movement and aggressive natures, and therefore make a poor selection for a seahorse tank. Aside from physical interactions between these fish and your seahorses, the biggest problem is that those types of fish will monopolize the food in the tank, unless you are very good at target feeding. Seahorses require different types of feeding than the fish that you are used to and you need to be aware and respectful of that. They will wait until the food comes to them, whereas your other fish will go after anything they can fit in their mouths, wherever it may be. The seahorses require more feedings than most other fish due to their lack of a stomach, and this has to be addressed in their care, which affects the feeding of these other fish, and your need of an increased cleanup crew to handle the amount of waste they produce, both from the feeding process itself, to the.. umm... "other end" of the process....
Since you obviously have one of the larger varieties of seahorse, which means you must have some younger specimens that will be growing up to 100% larger than they are currently, you really need to think about the future of your tank, and if you want the seahorses to be successful in the long term, you are most likely going to have to make some major adjustments to the:
physical setup
Hitching areas
Places with shade/sunlight
Zones of water movement
Feeding needs
your cleanup crew.
I have posted quite a few threads on here dealing with seahorse care, and websites such as seahorse.org, seahorse.com, wetwebmedia, sygnathid.org, etc would be big help to you.
I STRONGLY recommend revisiting your research, getting a definitive ID on your ponies (posting a pic here would be a good start), and be willing to redo your tank if you truly want the seahorses to have success.
As much as it's not as difficult to care for seahorses as most folks seem to think it is, it DOES require a certain amount of focus and specialization to successfully keep seahorses in the home aquarium environment.
As evidenced in this thread, it seems like you have an immediate rebuttal to any advice or direction given to you on this topic, so I really hope that you take this to heart as it is meant: From someone who really loves seahorse-keeping and wants to see them all in the best environments possible.
Simply having an impulse buy of some seahorses is not good for the livestock or for your tank. Please, ID the horses, do the REAL research, and adapt accordingly.... or.. find someone who IS ready to be keeping Reidi seahorses.
It sounds like you have small H. Reidi's and you need to act according to the parameters of their care needs, and not those of the zosterae. If they are already 3-4 inches long, you can rule out that they could even possibly be dwarf seahorses, since at BEST the dwarves are gonna be about an inch long. Dwarf seahorses have completely different care requirements from the rest of the species' of seahorses and need to be dealt with accordingly.
You selection of tankmates is not an ideal choice for any type of seahorse. The angel and the blenny, specifically, both have tendencies towards fast movement and aggressive natures, and therefore make a poor selection for a seahorse tank. Aside from physical interactions between these fish and your seahorses, the biggest problem is that those types of fish will monopolize the food in the tank, unless you are very good at target feeding. Seahorses require different types of feeding than the fish that you are used to and you need to be aware and respectful of that. They will wait until the food comes to them, whereas your other fish will go after anything they can fit in their mouths, wherever it may be. The seahorses require more feedings than most other fish due to their lack of a stomach, and this has to be addressed in their care, which affects the feeding of these other fish, and your need of an increased cleanup crew to handle the amount of waste they produce, both from the feeding process itself, to the.. umm... "other end" of the process....
Since you obviously have one of the larger varieties of seahorse, which means you must have some younger specimens that will be growing up to 100% larger than they are currently, you really need to think about the future of your tank, and if you want the seahorses to be successful in the long term, you are most likely going to have to make some major adjustments to the:
physical setup
Hitching areas
Places with shade/sunlight
Zones of water movement
Feeding needs
your cleanup crew.
I have posted quite a few threads on here dealing with seahorse care, and websites such as seahorse.org, seahorse.com, wetwebmedia, sygnathid.org, etc would be big help to you.
I STRONGLY recommend revisiting your research, getting a definitive ID on your ponies (posting a pic here would be a good start), and be willing to redo your tank if you truly want the seahorses to have success.
As much as it's not as difficult to care for seahorses as most folks seem to think it is, it DOES require a certain amount of focus and specialization to successfully keep seahorses in the home aquarium environment.
As evidenced in this thread, it seems like you have an immediate rebuttal to any advice or direction given to you on this topic, so I really hope that you take this to heart as it is meant: From someone who really loves seahorse-keeping and wants to see them all in the best environments possible.
Simply having an impulse buy of some seahorses is not good for the livestock or for your tank. Please, ID the horses, do the REAL research, and adapt accordingly.... or.. find someone who IS ready to be keeping Reidi seahorses.
Hey Lenny,
Thanks for the wealth of information. I have taken into consideration. I got an ID on the type of horses a while back and have made the necessary adjustments with livestock. I kept my lemon peel because he has basically befriended the horses. He show zero aggression towards them.
I have been feeding them daily with frozen mysis (3-4 times a day) and they devour everything they eat. THey are actually fairly active hunters. When I drop food in, they take off after it like a fish would.
Thanks Lenny!
Rajfish
Thanks for the wealth of information. I have taken into consideration. I got an ID on the type of horses a while back and have made the necessary adjustments with livestock. I kept my lemon peel because he has basically befriended the horses. He show zero aggression towards them.
I have been feeding them daily with frozen mysis (3-4 times a day) and they devour everything they eat. THey are actually fairly active hunters. When I drop food in, they take off after it like a fish would.
Thanks Lenny!
Rajfish
hey raj lets see some pics of those ponys. and congrats on becomeing a rancher. lol
also maybe you might want to post some pics of your set up so we can help you make some adjustments to help the horses. and i am glad they are still living i do not think i could keep them that long.
oh and if i came across blunt in my posts sorry it is just it gets me mad when people get an endangerd species and do not know how to care for it.(which is what it came across but not what the sit was)
also maybe you might want to post some pics of your set up so we can help you make some adjustments to help the horses. and i am glad they are still living i do not think i could keep them that long.
oh and if i came across blunt in my posts sorry it is just it gets me mad when people get an endangerd species and do not know how to care for it.(which is what it came across but not what the sit was)
Similar threads
- Sticky
