High Iodine Levels

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I don't have an opinion on the Red Sea Iodine kit.

Seachem only detect iodide. Salifert measures iodide, iodate, and iodine. Both are useful depending on your need.

For what you're trying to discover, I'd probably go with Salifert.
 
mysterybox;393561 wrote: please read this article:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/mar2003/chem.htm">http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/mar2003/chem.htm</a>[/QUOTE]

Already beat you to that link- mine was imbedded in 'this'. :) I love Advanced Aquarist. The problem is though, is that most people glaze over when they start reading about iodine in the reef aquarium. I know I used to.

[QUOTE=][B]DannyBradley;393508 wrote:[/B] Consider [IMG]http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/mar2003/chem.htm">this</a>, also.[/QUOTE]
 
<p style="text-align:left"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14px">Sources of iodine in an marine aquarium</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">Other than iodine supplements, the significant sources of iodine in marine aquaria are likely to be almost exclusively in the foods given. Even though starting salt mixes contain some iodine, that source likely disappears very rapidly (it has been known for a long time that iodide depletes rapidly, and next month’s article will show some rates). So only ongoing additions of iodine are likely to have a significant long term impact.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 13px">While I was gone at summer camp my sister had to take care of the tank (I was basically gone all summer) I didn't want her to test water or have to do water changes (I would come back 1 or 2 days at a time and do a water change, make sure every thing is ok) beacause she is the type of person that if somthing was a little off like nitrates showing up when she tests or calcium being a little low she would completly freak out. I had her dose aquavitro calcification, fuel, ions, and vibrance. Vibrance is a suppliment for iodine and I had her dose it all summer based on the recomended dose on the bottle. Could this and the salt be the reson for the iodine, and wouldn't that mean the levels must have been really concentrated right after summer when all my fish died? Could that be what caused the big crash and this is just some left over. I don't have much macro algea that could be using it (only cheato) and I only have one soft coral (which may not use iodine much at all according to the artical) and two gorgonians.</span></span>
 
Oh, I have to read a GA history textbook and then take a test on what I've read. I've learned not to glaze over :)
 
twistoflime;393590 wrote: Could this and the salt be the reson for the iodine, and wouldn't that mean the levels must have been really concentrated right after summer when all my fish died? Could that be what caused the big crash and this is just some left over. I don't have much macro algea that could be using it (only cheato) and I only have one soft coral (which may not use iodine much at all according to the artical) and two gorgonians.</font><!-- gcu-updated SIZE -->[/FONT][/LEFT]

It's tough to say without looking at a history of water tests. I'd lean more towards no, as we would have heard of more tank crashes due to this. I worked retail fish for 6 years and can't recall an instance of this happening. Keep in mind that many casual reef keepers dosing iodide dump dose.

Vibrance is potassium iodide. Elemental iodine I2 is the severely dangerous form, as it is a powerful antiseptic. Iodide is rapidly depleted from the system by various means(uptake, skimmer, iodate conversion, etc.)

I've also heard of some aquaculture facilties running total iodine(supplementing iodide) as high as .18ppm. I don't recommend that at all for the hobbiest. It takes a lot of the stuff to cause significant damage, expecially to a higher organism like a fish. It takes very little I2 to crash a reef.

Anecdotally, I saw a reef stress upon the addition of top crown snails which consumed a large amount of red reef algae. We therorized that it caused a large release of stored iodine, which may have stressed the tank. There were no losses, and everything was doing fine after about two weeks.
 
Like I said the corals I've had in the tank for a while are doing fine but the ones I've added within the past few weeks are not extending their polyps and getting RTN should I just wiat a couple weeks and see what happens? I stopped dosing vibrance as soon as I got back from camp with was about 5 weeks ago.
DannyBradley;393609 wrote: It's tough to say without looking at a history of water tests. I'd lean more towards no, as we would have heard of more tank crashes due to this. I worked retail fish for 6 years and can't recall an instance of this happening. Keep in mind that many casual reef keepers dosing iodide dump dose.

Vibrance is potassium iodide. Elemental iodine I2 is the severely dangerous form, as it is a powerful antiseptic. Iodide is rapidly depleted from the system by various means(uptake, skimmer, iodate conversion, etc.)

I've also heard of some aquaculture facilties running total iodine(supplementing iodide) as high as .18ppm. I don't recommend that at all for the hobbiest. It takes a lot of the stuff to cause significant damage, expecially to a higher organism like a fish. It takes very little I2 to crash a reef.

Anecdotally, I saw a reef stress upon the addition of top crown snails which consumed a large amount of red reef algae. We therorized that it caused a large release of stored iodine, which may have stressed the tank. There were no losses, and everything was doing fine after about two weeks.
 
twistoflime;393658 wrote: Like I said the corals I've had in the tank for a while are doing fine but the ones I've added within the past few weeks are not extending their polyps and getting RTN should I just wiat a couple weeks and see what happens? I stopped dosing vibrance as soon as I got back from camp with was about 5 weeks ago.

I would stop or scale back dosing anything that isn't calcium, buffer, and magnesium. Those three elements are your foundations for a reef. Everything on top of those only helps to maximize results.

I can't say that there's anything wrong with instant ocean salt, as it's used extensively with positive results.
 
DannyBradley;393662 wrote: I would stop or scale back dosing anything that isn't calcium, buffer, and magnesium. Those three elements are your foundations for a reef. Everything on top of those only helps to maximize results.

I can't say that there's anything wrong with instant ocean salt, as it's used extensively with positive results.
The only thing I've been dosing for the past 5 weeks has been calcium though. I havn't dosed any thing else since I got back.
 
No the red sea are just for iodine and magnisium the rest are from the reef master kit. Is there a sponser that caries the elos kits?
ares;393685 wrote: red sea test kits are... rough

are you using them for all the tests?

for a tank of that scale, I strongly suggest getting a full arsenal of salifert or elos kits. we put alot of weight in the test results, and they are only as good as the tests themselves. an investment in them now can avoid alot of headaches and misdiagnoses
 
I've had 2 frags completly rtn ones starting, It's pretty slow. The polyps arn't extending much at all in any of the new corals.
DannyBradley;393764 wrote: How quickly are they starting to RTN after you've added them in?
 
I tested the iodine in the water change water with seachem reef salt and it's at .06 I'll try to get a better test kit as sone as I can.
 
twistoflime;393856 wrote: I tested the iodine in the water change water with seachem reef salt and it's at .06 I'll try to get a better test kit as sone as I can.

Seachem salt mixed properly can serve as a rough baseline for testing the accuracy of a test.

Allowing that when mixed as instructed you achieve a iodine level of 0.06mg/l and your test has the same result, it's not unreasonable to construe that your test is accurate.

The only question remains is what it's actually testing. Is it specific to one form of iodine, or sensitive to all?
 
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