I pretty much just found out that I will be the cabinet maker...lol. Like I told the person I contacted, it's hard making dollars out of dimes! I was thinking of making some sort of track system out of acrylic that could just hold it in place. I dunno. It's not THAT big of a deal, it just bothers me.
How do I fix this?!?
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That's the only part that will concern me
Sorry to have butted in on this discussion and made comments. I finally found my standpipe had several snail shells in it, so very slow flow and that caused my water level to rise in the tank and then flow into my safety overflow pipe.. causing the loud trickle noise. It was doing what it was supposed to, keeping me from having an over flow.
I was making things complicated, when it was really a simple thing. Been bugging me for months...
I was making things complicated, when it was really a simple thing. Been bugging me for months...
Yeah...I've tried increasing the flow - from a 950gph pump to a 1200gph pump to a 1800gph pump, with diversions. It is either the same level, or it floods! Blocking the teeth is the way to go I think. I'm going to do some math and see if I can block some teeth on the sides to equal a total of blocking all the teeth about 1/2". Thanks for responding though!
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I glad that this thread was an inspiration to solve the problem for you. That could've been nasty! Good thing for the backup!
The one drawback I can think of is that the water will flow faster at a greater depth thru the teeth if the width is reduced. This may cause noise and have a compounding effect on backing up the water in the display. Raising the bottom of the teeth does not change how the water flows or at what speed it flows. It will only change the depth of the tank.
rdnelson99;826847 wrote: The one drawback I can think of is that the water will flow faster at a greater depth thru the teeth if the width is reduced. This may cause noise and have a compounding effect on backing up the water in the display. Raising the bottom of the teeth does not change how the water flows or at what speed it flows. It will only change the depth of the tank.
Good point. I'm making this too complicated.
Yup. LOL. Not as a perm fix but as an experiment try this. Scrap acrylic or plastic or something similar. Cut to fit horizontally. Cut scrap PVC pipe to wedge in place. May not look nice but will tell you if it works. If it works do it right with materi you think looks nice.
But one more comment for you. Route your teeth of the overflow or obstruction to the level you want the water to be or a tad lower. Your return pipe should be a few inches below this level (level in the overflow box will be below water level). It will be underwater and once flushed of air silent. On this pipe below in your cabinet put a valve below in your sump area so you can close it down a bit to adjust the tank level up or down. The return pump volume is a constant so this valve will raise and lower the tank level to where you want it. You really dont have to worry too much about the level of your teeth on the overflow, just make sure your return pipe is below the level of the holes between your teeth. Worry more about the heigth of your return pipe. As you shut the flow down in your return pipe the water level will rise in the tank where you want it. Your sump level will decrease though so you may have to add more water.
You need an overflow pipe as well just the height of where you want it to prevent an over flow. It will drain the water into the sump in case your return pipe gets stopped up like mine and prevent the pump from forcing water up to the tank and over flowing. Instead of an over flow it will go down this pipe to the sump.
This might be old hat to you guys and not be of any help, but I am happy I think i finally get it. So pardon me for the intrusion.
Hopefully a nugget in here that helps you or someone else. And put a screen over your return pipe so no snails will get in there, resulting in low flow down your return pipe, water trickling down your over flow safety pipe , and driving you nuts.
And when plumbing, if your pipes dont come straight down to your sump, and have a bend in them, put a coupler in them on the straight down side from the tank so you can screw them off and have a "clean out" place. So you can snake straight down to clean out the pipes. And remove the angled part of the pipes so they can be cleaned out.
You need an overflow pipe as well just the height of where you want it to prevent an over flow. It will drain the water into the sump in case your return pipe gets stopped up like mine and prevent the pump from forcing water up to the tank and over flowing. Instead of an over flow it will go down this pipe to the sump.
This might be old hat to you guys and not be of any help, but I am happy I think i finally get it. So pardon me for the intrusion.
Hopefully a nugget in here that helps you or someone else. And put a screen over your return pipe so no snails will get in there, resulting in low flow down your return pipe, water trickling down your over flow safety pipe , and driving you nuts.
And when plumbing, if your pipes dont come straight down to your sump, and have a bend in them, put a coupler in them on the straight down side from the tank so you can screw them off and have a "clean out" place. So you can snake straight down to clean out the pipes. And remove the angled part of the pipes so they can be cleaned out.
It looks like the standpipe is pretty low in the picture. You only need about a quater inch higher in the tank. Have you tried raising the stand pipe? I know it is supposed to control just the water level in the overflow, however from experience, raising the level in the overflow seems to slow the flow through the slots and therefore raises the tank level a little bit. I'd try the easiest thing first.
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like Bud said raise the stand pipe some so that the water level is closer to the top of the slots but still under with a 1/4" or so of the slot exposed .It will still surface skim, it does not have to fall to break the surface tension.
I'm going to do a combination of things, starting with the standipe. If that doesn't get me what I want, I'll mess with the overflow teeth. Thanks for all the help.
