My tank water is Shocking!

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Quickest way to de-electrify my water? Something shocked the mess out of me when touching the tank water last night, any DIY grounding methods out there? Cant figure out whats leeching the electricity tried unplugging everything!
Thanks!
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Generally, that's either coming from a powerhead or a heater. I've also known a bare wire in lighting to "jump" especially if you touch the water and the light at the same time. Water itself doesn't create electricity but it certainly will conduct it so it has to be coming from something that's plugged in.
 
Yeah i tried unplugging everything but still was getting shocked. I know its coming from one of those things for sure not the light as far as i know. Anything that pulls that stray electricity out of the water? Or just hunt down the faulty equipment? Seems intermittent not consistently shocking.
 
Grounding the tank wont do anything other than give it a path to ground. In other words, it will allow the current to flow through the tank. That is what kills things. Not to be glib, but that includes you.

You have to find what it is that is causing it. My bet is a heater. From what I have seen it always comes back to that. I guarantee there is something faulty that is causing it. Do you run UV? That is also a big culprit.
 
No UV just building it up weekly when i have time! Oi ok ill try unplugging everything again. Thanks for the tips so far!
 
Koralia powerheads are a culprit especially if they have been cleaned in vinegar dips. The vinegar degrades the epoxy coating on the internal magnet and allows it to leach electricity. I suppose that could actually be true of anything submersible.
 
Just a thought.... if you have unplugged everything and you are still getting "shocked". Do you have any cuts on your hands? that can often feel like a shock and its just the salt in the wound...

I'm just stretching the boundaries a little.
 
start unplugging heaters, powerheads and anything else you may have in the system and get it out of there. Making your tank live with electricity will kill off coral quicker than anything that could happen to a reef tank
 
Can tanks hold a charge? That could explain why you are getting shocked after unplugging things. If not.. are you only unplugging one thing at a time? If by chance two things are leaking then one at a time will not change the results. Good luck trackin it down!
 
Frantz;752225 wrote: Can tanks hold a charge? That could explain why you are getting shocked after unplugging things. If not.. are you only unplugging one thing at a time? If by chance two things are leaking then one at a time will not change the results. Good luck trackin it down!

There is the slightest chance a tank could act as a battery. But, for a battery to work, it must have to dissimilar metallic plates that are separated by an electrolytic material. The salt water mixture could act as an electrolytic material but a very poor one. If it were acting as a battery, you would first have to complete a circuit between the two metallic plates. In addition, the amount of charge would be extremely small and dissipate so quickly neither you nor the livestock would even notice.
 
I was thinking of the friendly georgia power repair man who works on high voltage lines... the charge builds up and his voltage potential rises slowly until he can safely work on high voltage and if he were to jump of the isolated platform he would die from the shock... but I'm speaking only from vague concepts not solid knowledge.
 
Frantz;752253 wrote: I was thinking of the friendly georgia power repair man who works on high voltage lines... the charge builds up and his voltage potential rises slowly until he can safely work on high voltage and if he were to jump of the isolated platform he would die from the shock... but I'm speaking only from vague concepts not solid knowledge.

Not exactly. What happens with high voltage lines, when de-energized is they become a like capacitor. To avoid getting shocked, they ground the wires to bleed off any capacitive charge that would otherwise build up. When the lines are energized that is not a factor. But, if they work on a live circuit, they absolutely do not want to "build up the charge" slowly. Building the charge up slowly causes current to flow. Flowing current is what does the harm to the body. They want to achieve a voltage balance almost instantaneously to avoid that from happening. The problem is that if they were to reach over and grab the line, even if they were suspended in mid-air, the difference of potential between their body and the line would cause an arc (what you see in arc welding). The arc would burn them or blow off limbs. To avoid this, they stand on a metal plate in the bucket of the truck. The bucket is isolated from the ground by the fiberglass boom. The plate has a wire with a clamp on it. Using a fiberglass pole they reach over with the wire and connect it to the transmission line. That way, the spark happens away from them and at the same time, they become instantly at the same potential as the transmission line. Now, they can safely reach over and grab hold of the line all they want.
 
rdnelson99;752260 wrote: Not exactly. What happens with high voltage lines, when de-energized is they become a like capacitor. To avoid getting shocked, they ground the wires to bleed off any capacitive charge that would otherwise build up. When the lines are energized that is not a factor. But, if they work on a live circuit, they absolutely do not want to "build up the charge" slowly. Building the charge up slowly causes current to flow. Flowing current is what does the harm to the body. They want to achieve a voltage balance almost instantaneously to avoid that from happening. The problem is that if they were to reach over and grab the line, even if they were suspended in mid-air, the difference of potential between their body and the line would cause an arc (what you see in arc welding). The arc would burn them or blow off limbs. To avoid this, they stand on a metal plate in the bucket of the truck. The bucket is isolated from the ground by the fiberglass boom. The plate has a wire with a clamp on it. Using a fiberglass pole they reach over with the wire and connect it to the transmission line. That way, the spark happens away from them and at the same time, they become instantly at the same potential as the transmission line. Now, they can safely reach over and grab hold of the line all they want.
Excellent explanation there my friend . Well done. I even understood that one.
 
True marksman of an electrician you are. I'm surprise no one has asked how your coral and fish are doing yet? Are they even alive!?! Seems like shock has been going on for awhile. You even had time to make a post. Holy ****.
 
When you say you unplugged everything...you are including the lights, and everything in the sump as well right? Literally EVERYTHING?

CJ
 
rdnelson99;752260 wrote: Not exactly. What happens with high voltage lines, when de-energized is they become a like capacitor. To avoid getting shocked, they ground the wires to bleed off any capacitive charge that would otherwise build up. When the lines are energized that is not a factor. But, if they work on a live circuit, they absolutely do not want to "build up the charge" slowly. Building the charge up slowly causes current to flow. Flowing current is what does the harm to the body. They want to achieve a voltage balance almost instantaneously to avoid that from happening. The problem is that if they were to reach over and grab the line, even if they were suspended in mid-air, the difference of potential between their body and the line would cause an arc (what you see in arc welding). The arc would burn them or blow off limbs. To avoid this, they stand on a metal plate in the bucket of the truck. The bucket is isolated from the ground by the fiberglass boom. The plate has a wire with a clamp on it. Using a fiberglass pole they reach over with the wire and connect it to the transmission line. That way, the spark happens away from them and at the same time, they become instantly at the same potential as the transmission line. Now, they can safely reach over and grab hold of the line all they want.

Exactly right. As a side note, pure water is an insulator, its all the other stuff in it that conducts, I always thought that was so cool.
 
Don't forget the lights - I've seen stray voltage in a tank with a faulty light fixture too. I can't explain how the power jumped to the tank (but somebody explained it once)... but it did.

The ONLY safe solution is to replace whatever is faulty, period.

Jenn
 
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