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I have a new 20gal cube tank cycling for the pass 3 weeks and tonight i went and look at the tank and saw these worm like things with lots of legs crawling all over the live rock i have in the tank. Here is my question are they good for the tank or do i have to get rid of them. Please help me.
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bristle worms, good clean up crew.
they will get all the small waste within the rocks, keepers.
nice looking tank.
 
Thanks, That is very good to hear. I have not seen any in my 90gal tank. So i am going good.
 
when your fully stocked and you start feeding the tank, the ones you have will grow and multiply.
they can grow to be really big and the bristles can sting, so I wouldn't touch then.
 
great for a reef tank, they are a great clean up crew you don't have to pay for.
I wouldn't worry about them at all.
I must have hundreds in my tank and the biggest one I ever pulled out was about 12" long.
 
MYREEFCLUB0070;1063593 wrote: when your fully stocked and you start feeding the tank, the ones you have will grow and multiply.
they can grow to be really big and the bristles can sting, so I wouldn't touch then.

IMHO, because of this, I must disagree with my friend Marlon. I would take the rock out of the tank and sit it on the counter for a few minutes. They will start crawling out, then flush them.

Marlon told me he NEVER puts his hands in his tank. My hands are in the tank too much I'm sure, but this is why I tried 100% to not get them in my newest set up.

There are many, many good hitch hickers that are free and not harmful. I've got bristle stars that I'm happy to give away to you (or anyone) and they don't sting.

If you already have this many crawling around searching for food (they usually hide and only come out at feeding) you will end up with large, dangerously painful, stinging worms.
 
I absolutely LOVE Bristleworms. Even introduce them on purpose to tanks that I feel may not have gotten any with the initial live rock.

In my opinion they are hands down some of the best cleanup crew available. Snails and Hermits tend to die much easier and don't do as good of a job turning the gravel over. Personally I wouldn't get carried away trying to get rid of them. If you see any big ones during the day you can always pull them out with some tweezers. Their population increases when their food source in the sand and rock increases. So if your are doing proper routine maintenance then there should be no way of getting a population explosion. Plus it is nearly impossible to get rid of them 100% by just put pulling rocks you find them on. Only real way is to tear it all down to bleach the rock and get brand new sand. Or restart with base rock... but as soon as you take home some live rock from ANY store or even sometimes coral... you risk introducing them back in the system.

Are far as possibly getting stung... yes there is that risk. Only time I ever get stung by them is when doing a full tank tear down and I'm not paying attention. I've never even so much as touched one on accident when doing basic tank maintenance or moving a piece of live rock somewhere else in the tank.

Camellia;1063609 wrote: If you already have this many crawling around searching for food (they usually hide and only come out at feeding) you will end up with large, dangerously painful, stinging worms.

I have to disagree with this statement Debbie. I believe they are crawling around out in the open right now because it's a brand new setup and they have very little food source if any at all. So they are probably actually slowly dying with no food source.
 
ok i will take you up on your offer for a bristle star. i can pick it up this afternoon. you can text me 7708437785.
 
aXio;1063640 wrote: I have to disagree with this statement Debbie. I believe they are crawling around out in the open right now because it's a brand new setup and they have very little food source if any at all. So they are probably actually slowly dying with no food source.


That's what I was saying, or trying to say! They are SEARCHING for food! There isn't enough in his existing live rock.


Everyone has "their" opinion. This happens to be mine :)

When I upgraded I did bleach & acid soaked my rock, clean sand.... I did not ever put any rocks into my system from any store or person if it had not been bleached and acid washed.
JMO :)

Indeed, I will text you Okie. We are very close too.

I do agree you will not get rid of ALL of them unless you start over, nor do I recommend that. I'm just saying if they are out in the open, I'd remove them.
If they are dying looking for food that's not exactly ideal either!
 
Okie;1063642 wrote: ok i will take you up on your offer for a bristle star. i can pick it up this afternoon. you can text me 7708437785.

With you being new and not a member of ARC I do not feel comfortable giving you my address nor having you stop by. I am a single female.
I will text you and we can arrange something. I am happy to share (free) a dozen stars...

I've taken (given) 50+ to Premeir not long ago when re doing my rock scapes. I feed heavy!

Humm, maybe I need some Bristleworms for clean up help :)
 
aXio;1063640 wrote: I absolutely LOVE Bristleworms. Even introduce them on purpose to tanks that I feel may not have gotten any with the initial live rock.

In my opinion they are hands down some of the best cleanup crew available. Snails and Hermits tend to die much easier and don't do as good of a job turning the gravel over. Personally I wouldn't get carried away trying to get rid of them. If you see any big ones during the day you can always pull them out with some tweezers. Their population increases when their food source in the sand and rock increases. So if your are doing proper routine maintenance then there should be no way of getting a population explosion. Plus it is nearly impossible to get rid of them 100% by just put pulling rocks you find them on. Only real way is to tear it all down to bleach the rock and get brand new sand. Or restart with base rock... but as soon as you take home some live rock from ANY store or even sometimes coral... you risk introducing them back in the system.

Are far as possibly getting stung... yes there is that risk. Only time I ever get stung by them is when doing a full tank tear down and I'm not paying attention. I've never even so much as touched one on accident when doing basic tank maintenance or moving a piece of live rock somewhere else in the tank.



I have to disagree with this statement Debbie. I believe they are crawling around out in the open right now because it's a brand new setup and they have very little food source if any at all. So they are probably actually slowly dying with no food source.

I completely agree.

I've had my hands bristled, it's not that big of a deal. Soak the bristled finger(s) in some vinegar, it will melt off the bristles.

Obviously don't deliberately touch them with your fingers, but when you've handled as many tons of LR as I have (literally tons over the years) - it happens.

As for bristleworms in the tank - their benefits outweigh any risks in almost all cases. The ONLY exception I'd make is for dwarf seahorses (Hippocampus zostrae) - I have seen a bristleworm pluck a dwarf seahorse right off its holdfast. Otherwise, they don't bother healthy living things, and make short work of uneaten food or waste.

If one has a huge population of them, they are over-feeding their tank, and the worms are a great indicator of that.

Tiny serpent stars - sorry - they aren't 'bristle' stars - serpents have smooth legs and the stars with prickly legs are brittle stars - brittle because of their penchant to drop a leg if they are picked up or feel threatened. The stars are good janitors too but they are nowhere near as efficient as bristle worms.

I never really understood the purpose of nuking good live rock with bleach/acid... might as well just start with all dead stuff, since that's the end result. It will never again have the biological diversity that the stuff off the reef does, with all its goodies that survive the journey.

Jenn
 
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