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[grayskwerel]

I'm just starting out and have only 4 small frags and a few mushrooms in my 90 gallon. I'm sure lots of people starting out would like to fill in the emptiness so it will start to look like a reef. I'd have to also agree with the OP but it will take a long time for my tank to become established... with limited funds and knowledge... learn as I go... and I'm sure I will hit some pitfalls. I'll just keep working at it till I get there. My tank is just a baby... but I love it... it's MY creation. I stare at it all the time, ohhhh and ahhh at it and keep thinking of ways to improve it.

 

[jennm]

grayskwerel;649197 wrote: I'm just starting out and have only 4 small frags and a few mushrooms in my 90 gallon. I'm sure lots of people starting out would like to fill in the emptiness so it will start to look like a reef. I'd have to also agree with the OP but it will take a long time for my tank to become established... with limited funds and knowledge... learn as I go... and I'm sure I will hit some pitfalls. I'll just keep working at it till I get there. My tank is just a baby... but I love it... it's MY creation. I stare at it all the time, ohhhh and ahhh at it and keep thinking of ways to improve it.

And *that* is what the hobby is about. No matter how one does it.



Jenn

 

[insane_reef_keeper]

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This is my Bio Cube before the move to my 60 cube, everything that is in there started as 1-2 inch frags. Now they are full colonies and extremely healthy. Everyone has to start some where, some with frags(nothing but frags), and some with full colonies... Which is beyond me, I rather watch my frag grow and become what it is or will be. Frags are also the more inexpensive route for beginners, as stated by a previous member, it really depends on what you can/cannot afford.

 

[KrisDeitz]

insane_reef_keeper;649211 wrote:

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This is my Bio Cube before the move to my 60 cube, everything that is in there started as 1-2 inch frags. Now they are full colonies and extremely healthy. Everyone has to start some where, some with frags(nothing but frags), and some with full colonies... Which is beyond me, I rather watch my frag grow and become what it is or will be. Frags are also the more inexpensive route for beginners, as stated by a previous member, it really depends on what you can/cannot afford.

Beautiful my friend !

 

[redstang]

rjrgroup;649146 wrote: I'm guessing that I'm the one with thin skin...? How dare I have an opinion too. My tank is beautiful to me, that's it. The fact that I can't afford big colonies nor have been in the hobby to have grown them does not affect the beauty...? I'm trying some different things, some work, some don't. SPS is certainly struggling right now.
The way the post was presented was offensive, thick skin or not. If you don't like the look of anyone else's hard work, shut up and move on. Don't whine about to a bunch of people trying to enjoy their hobby.

I don't know. Never met you :thumbs:. I expect lots of frags in new tanks and even one here or there in established tanks. I'm completely mesmerized by frag tanks actually. I took a buddy by Pure Reef this week and we drooled over all the coral. I love it. I just love the look of an established and mature or "finished" tank more. Plus, if it floats your boat more power to you! I don't think anyone here would presume to tell you that you are doing your tank wrong because you have frags. And we'd all likely think it looks cool.

Speaking personally, I haven't disliked a single tank I've seen. Even the GHA covered ones generally have something pretty cool lurking beneath. I guess I'd say don't look for insults and simply accept people's opinion. Because that's all they are. Not a judgement. If someone simply doesn't like the appearance of my rock scape I'm really not going to care as long as I love it.

FWIW, I'll be right there with you when it comes to frags. I don't even have water in my tank yet! And what I do get will come slowly and I'll be proud of my little piece of reef. I won't be buying huge colonies because they cost too much when I can buy a frag and grow it out. Honestly I'll have more of a sense of accomplishment if I can do it that way.

I apologize if you thought I was insulting you or your tank. I wasn't. I was merely agreeing with the OP's assertion that frags, especially oodles of them, can detract what is an otherwise beautiful tank. Doesn't mean it's ugly or that I don't like it. I just see where he's coming from and tend to agree.

Jason

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insane_reef_keeper;649211 wrote:

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This is my Bio Cube before the move to my 60 cube, everything that is in there started as 1-2 inch frags. Now they are full colonies and extremely healthy. Everyone has to start some where, some with frags(nothing but frags), and some with full colonies... Which is beyond me, I rather watch my frag grow and become what it is or will be. Frags are also the more inexpensive route for beginners, as stated by a previous member, it really depends on what you can/cannot afford.

I think that's awesome and I can only hope that my BC looks that good some day! I will admit though, and please</em> don't take this personally, I just don't care for frag racks. But honestly it took me 10-15 seconds to see them even because I was looking at everything else. This pic to me is the perfect example. I understand why you have the frag racks. When I start planning/piecing together an upgrade I'll likely do the same in order to start preparing for the move. Or maybe a coral caught your eye and you want to grow it out before replacing an existing one. All valid reasons for frag racks. Use the space available right?

Really hope people understand where I'm coming from. Freaking tone is completely lost in internet posts. One of the biggest reasons for misunderstandings and why it's not worth getting upset even if someone is trying to insult you .

 

[markl]

Chemically_Balanced;648982 wrote: You read that exactly the way I posted it.:yay: I'm glad I offened you as that was my purpose.

I understand people starting out have frags, that's what I have. My point was people overload the tanks with frags. Just because you have room for a frag doesn't mean one should be there. Corals grow so people need to take the handed down advice and take it slow. If you leave it, it will grow. If you take care of it, it will grow, and not fall behind the rock to be forgotten about. If you can't keep track of the corals you have in a new tank, you prolly have too many.

I agree. most of us put frags in our tanks.I when you keep seeing all these tanks with 200 sps frags ect in a less then 150gallon tank .You know the tank want have the room to grow out. Might as well just make it a frag tank. LOOK a wwc display tank. There is no way it can mature .It's an over sized frag tank. I think it just as bad as to add too many fish to a system.

 

[gnashty]

Im on the fence here as I have a mix of both. Ive bought hundreds of frags for my 210 (now 180). Alot have grown into really nice mini colonies and some are still frags. To me I prefer to start with frags because they are:

1. More affordable to have nicer peices
2. Are mostly aquacultured by club members (responsible)
3. Gives me a sense of pride to nurture a frag to a colony
4. Helps me develop my reefing skills that will never end
5. I like variety and some things grow better in some tanks than others, its up to me to make those decisions and switch out as I see fit.

Can I name EVERYTHING in my tank, not always. Have I lost a couple along the way from frag overload, Yes. But if you come over to my house every single frag has a story and those stories include many of you guys and I wouldnt trade that for a show size colony of my favorite coral in the world.

If you can take a frag to colony size, frag and share with the club members to me, thats what it is all about - and its responsible. Anyone with enough money and a couple of books can pack their tank full of colonies, to me that doesnt make them a true reefer. To me any person who has the ability to learn from thier mistakes, care for their tank properly and with their heart, and share thier knowledge of the hobby to all - that is a true reefer.

Obviously a mature tank is more eye appealing but I dont do this to have the most beautiful reef on the block, I do this because I love it, Because it interests me to no end, because I love the ARC community and the social aspect of the hobby too.

So if someone posts pics of a fraggy reef and ppl give kudos so be it. Positive re-inforcement regardless of skill level, or wallet thickness is a wonderful thing and should be encouraged across the club. We didnt get to be one of the largest reef clubs in the great country by talking trash about each others tanks.

 

[ralph atl]

Man, I guess my tank is too "mature" and "oldschool"...I guess I'll need to buy 20-30 frags....lol!

 

[ralph atl]

just teasin'.....

 

[ebojo]

One mans trash is another mans treasure. If your happy with your own tank, that should be all that matters.

 

[chemically_balanced]

Just another shot of my tank.

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[ralph atl]

Love Tonga! Sweet!

 

[chemically_balanced]

mysterybox;650218 wrote: Love Tonga! Sweet!

It's been a battle to have that rock but I'm starting to enjoy it.

 

[sarahh]

meh, i am happy with my frag tastic POS. it's not always the greatest, But the corals that i have are proving to be hardy little suckers. I like that i have the room to learn, especially with the zoas and acans i have acquired along the way.

Frags and frag trading have been a wonderful source of interaction for me. You get to meet the most interesting folk and have access to AMAZING tanks that inspire and help along the way. Whether i am giving "crappy" zoas and mushrooms or leathers ( which i love) or some really pretty rainbow thingies or even receiving GREAT things like chalices and blastos ( and my personal fav, the kenya tree) i always have a tale to tell.