Oceans Motions

[bruce 1]

Has any one used this? http://www.oceansmotions.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=e6cd24ab1593447e71e8d699cd733bb2">http://www.oceansmotions.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=e6cd24ab1593447e71e8d699cd733bb2</a>

Did or do you like it? Have you had any problems with it?

Thamk you Bruce

 

[skriz]

Awesome piece of equipment. I highly recommend them IF you're going to use it correctly.

 

[sharkbait]

Anybody have one for sale?

 

[jennm]

My guys just pulled one off a tank today, that was improperly installed and hopelessly clogged. (NO we didn't install it in the first place, I don't know who did.)

I'm not a fan - that's the second one of those we've had the misfortune to have to dismantle. Great fun when whomever installed it didn't quite think about where valves should be :-/

I'm sure they're fine if they are installed properly, but twice now I've seen botch-jobs. No bueno.

Jenn

 

[skriz]

JennM;682140 wrote: My guys just pulled one off a tank today, that was improperly installed and hopelessly clogged. (NO we didn't install it in the first place, I don't know who did.)

I'm not a fan - that's the second one of those we've had the misfortune to have to dismantle. Great fun when whomever installed it didn't quite think about where valves should be :-/

I'm sure they're fine if they are installed properly, but twice now I've seen botch-jobs. No bueno.

Jenn

Anything installed improperly won't work as it should. This isn't the fault of the product.

Jenn mentions valves..valves are UBER important with an OM. If you don't use valves and unions, you're begging for trouble.

 

[ripped tide]

So, what does the product do? Just divert flow different ways?

 

[sharkbait]

Ripped Tide;682150 wrote: So, what does the product do? Just divert flow different ways?

Its a controlled valve, so yes, it directs flow from the different ports to create waves within the tank.

 

[ripped tide]

Seems interesting. I guess you plumb it inline with your pump?

 

[sharkbait]

Ripped Tide;682153 wrote: Seems interesting. I guess you plumb it inline with your pump?

No, you make a closed loop system with this product.

 

[bruce 1]

Sharkbait;682156 wrote: No, you make a closed loop system with this product.

So on a standard RR tank you would not want to use this?


I was thinking of putting a return in each corner.

 

[grimreefer]

A RR tank would be fine. This replaces power heads in the tank. It gives it a more adjustable flow pattern.

 

[bruce 1]

JennM;682140 wrote: My guys just pulled one off a tank today, that was improperly installed and hopelessly clogged. (NO we didn't install it in the first place, I don't know who did.)

I'm not a fan - that's the second one of those we've had the misfortune to have to dismantle. Great fun when whomever installed it didn't quite think about where valves should be :-/

I'm sure they're fine if they are installed properly, but twice now I've seen botch-jobs. No bueno.

Jenn

What is the proper way to install them? What is the improper way?

 

[skriz]

bruce 1;682167 wrote: So on a standard RR tank you would not want to use this?


I was thinking of putting a return in each corner.

This is meant to be used on a closed loop. You'll need to drill the tank.

grimreefer;682171 wrote: A RR tank would be fine. This replaces power heads in the tank. It gives it a more adjustable flow pattern.

Your return pump should never be used to provide the DT's flow. The return pump is for your filtration, which uses a slower flow than you need in the DT. Powerheads or a CL is needed for flow.

 

[jennm]

5 holes in the tank, over and above the drains and returns. That alone bothers me, because each hole is another potential leak.

Valve and union placement is crucial. In yesterday's instance, there's a valve between the feed hole and the pump, but no union. So whomever installed that one, didn't bother to think ahead about servicing the pump. They put valves and unions between the device and the rest of the connections to the tank... but no union between tank and pump.

The guys ended taking the device off completely. It had been clogged up with food and detritus and wasn't working properly anyway.

They are not a very user-friendly device, in my experience. The only "advantage" is that you can move a lot of water without powerheads. Given all the pros and cons of this device though, I would stick with powerheads.

For starters, unless your tank is custom drilled at the factory to accommodate all the extra holes, you're voiding the warranty.

The ones I've had the misfortune to encounter, utilized holes drilled in the bottom of the tank (or in the bottom and sides). There's just something about those holes in the middle of the bottom of the tank that are counter-intuitive.... Not to mention the fact that in both cases, the devices ended up full of sand and/or debris.

Lots of money for lots of headaches.

Jenn