pH plummeting when lights come on?

shanepike

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Ok, so I have noticed the last few days that when my blue lights come on at 9:00, my pH plummets. Today, for instance, it went from 8.1 at 9:00 to 7.97 at 9:30. The fuge light is not</em> going off at that time. The only thing that's changing is the blue lights coming on. (They come on at 30% brightness, for what it's worth.) It's entirely possible that it has always done this; I'm not sure that I just haven't noticed before (though I would think I would have).

Any thoughts on what could be a likely cause?

Oh, and I just remembered that the canopy exhaust fan cuts on at the same time. The temp only dropped 0.2 degrees, but maybe a sudden increase in evaporation rate has something to do with it?
 
I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm not so sure that 4 one thousands of a point constitutes a "Plummet".

Mine routinely varies from 7.85 to 8.09 within a 24 hour period.

Does anything in your tank appear to be suffering?
Are all the other water parameters good?

If so, quit losing sleep over a .04 swing in PH.
 
I would not consider that plummeting either and I would not go chasing PH numbers if all your other CA/ALK/MG are in the proper ranges.
 
Y-Not;883204 wrote: I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm not so sure that 4 one thousands of a point constitutes a "Plummet".

Mine routinely varies from 7.85 to 8.09 within a 24 hour period.

Does anything in your tank appear to be suffering?
Are all the other water parameters good?

If so, quit losing sleep over a .04 swing in PH.

My bad...
It appears that I'm loosing my math skills.

Your Ph drop is 0.13 of a point.
Still nothing to loose sleep over.
 
I wouldn't be concerned if that drop was over the course of a day, but a) over just 30 minutes, b) when it's been consistent the entire rest of the day and c) at exactly the same time the past few days.
 
Maybe "concerned" isn't the best word, but I definitely want to understand what would cause this:

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Could have been some kinda of miss reading maybe with the apex maybe flow changed for that time around the probe? How old is the probe? I have seen 2 probes both calibrated the same time and placed one in the sump the other in the tank and both read differently on the same apex. I would just keep an eye on it to see if it happens again!
 
I definitely considered that it might be a problem with Apex and/or probe, but it has been perfectly consistent for at least the last five days (as far back as I can go right now):

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Alright, so this morning I manually turned on the blues & fan 5 minutes early. PH plummeted as soon as I did rather than waiting until 9. I suspect it's something to do with the fan, so tomorrow I will turn on only</em> the blues and see what happens.
 
ShanePike;883412 wrote: Alright, so this morning I manually turned on the blues & fan 5 minutes early. PH plummeted as soon as I did rather than waiting until 9. I suspect it's something to do with the fan, so tomorrow I will turn on only</em> the blues and see what happens.


You may well be onto something here.
I've setup a number of computer networks in the past and electromagnetic interference is a mystical beast.

Check that the probe cable is not running inline with any other cable. Power cable, other probe cables, etc...

There's a note in the Apex manual about running them some distance apart or at 90 degrees from each other. Of course, that's not a quote but it goes something along those lines.

My salinity measurements were all over the board until I routed the salinity probe separate from everything else.

This could be the key to the sudden, predictable drop in PH.
 
Alright, mystery solved ... kind of.

This morning I opened my canopy at 8:20. Nothing else changed. I simply opened the canopy to let it vent. Immediately</em> pH began to drop. The lights came on at 9:00 as usual, but the pH drop had already been happening for 40 minutes.

So what is it about venting the canopy that causes pH to drop so precipitously? I can imagine that the evaporation increases substantially, but would evaporation cause a pH drop like that?
 
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