POLL why I don't quarantine

[mvm]

grouper therapy;635563 wrote: I do see a frenzy but I also see a single fish at the top of a quarantine tank in an excited stated waiting on food as well and not having to compete with already established fish.

If the fish has been trained to eat in an aquarium....
I had a 55 gallon Qt in college and a 40 breeder a few years ago. Both had adequate, established filtration and good params. My lack of success was with wrasse, mostly. Keep in mind that some of these fish have been collected recently, probably as recently was weeks. They are kept with multiple fish their entire trip, only to be put in a tank by themselves for QT. It has to have some impact on certain species, especially the schooling fish (tangs/anthias) and ones that live in harems (wrasse).

 

[grouper therapy]

I can see where the impact from a sudden social change, if you will, could cause stress and the quarantining process may occasionally fail.

 

[cr500_af]

Trying to provide something other than prepared food while QT'ing a Naso has taught me that chaeto is a palatable grazing food... he has eaten a softball-sized ball over five days.

 

[snowmansnow]

i don't do q tanks because I RARELY add a new fish. Keeping a tank up and running for that amount of time wouldn't be worth it IMO.

 

[grouper therapy]

anomaly;635630 wrote: I like how the poll choices are worded. Like you should feel guilty, cheap, or stupid if you don't quarantine. Hah.

That was not my intent. May I ask your intent with your response.
Looking back I guess I should have worded it differently for those who may be a little more sensitive to the wording of the poll instead of the actual intent to gather info so as to help fellow reefers. Since you did not participate in the poll and decided to add your own option I probably should have added all of the above for you. If the questions sparked an emotional overload for you let me know and I will try to find you a therapist just want help.

 

[grouper therapy]

anomaly;635630 wrote: I like how the poll choices are worded. Like you should feel guilty, cheap, or stupid if you don't quarantine. Hah.

Judging by that post I can help you pick one or maybe even two if you are still undecided.
just had two it was more than I could bare

 

[gwhiz]

anomaly;635630 wrote: I like how the poll choices are worded. Like you should feel guilty, cheap, or stupid if you don't quarantine. Hah.

LOL...it's certainly not an unbiased poll...more like some of the political polling I've seen!rder:

 

[cr500_af]

Let's be realistic here, though... the "don't think one is needed" option is there, so any other reason for not QT'ing has a strong chance of stinging a little if it applies to you. Maybe the wording is a touch strong, but no crime in that.

As for biased, what should there be, reasons for not QT'ing that are positives?

 

[sarahh]

every time i add a QT, i end up decking it out in LR, LS, and corals... then it's just another bloody tank. lol
my last QT ended up holding a tang, 2 pajama cardinals, a baby clown with his anemone and a queen conch. (with crew)

The tang and cardinals came out into a 125, the clown has a nice little 25 eclipse for himself. now i need a new QT:doh:

 

[grouper therapy]

These questions were not asked with the intent to offend anyone. I suppose they are bias to some degree they are my questions and the only ones that I felt were reasons for not practicing Qt. If there are others that I did not mention please post as some have. I may not agree but it is a free world. Usually offense is taken when application is made, I don't control that .

Edit: why have the names been removed?

Edit: I actually voted in the poll so I guess I offended myself.

 

[lifestudent]

Regarding fish, I try normally quarratine them for 60 days; and a minimum of 42 days to ensure that they are "Ich free" if I am in need of the QT tank for another incoming fish.

However, I do not quarratine coral since I pre-dip them in Coral Rx. If I had the resources, lighting, and space, I would still QT corals for 1 week to ensure that I was not introducing other unwarranted life like bubble algae.

 

[lilrobb]

grouper therapy;635833 wrote: why have the names been removed?

They haven't - I still see them

 

[grouper therapy]

must be my system I just see the graph

 

[grouper therapy]

Well that certainly was not what I expected 42% feel that QT is not needed. That pretty much answer my questions. Thanks to all who constructively participated.

 

[vicbay]

i dont.

im sure they will come a time when i wish i had. but havent seen it yet so...

 

[jhutto]

I do not quarantine new fish. When I see a fish I like, my first question is to the LFS is when did you get the fish in? If its been there a couple weeks, that is a good thing. I usually go to a store look at the fish a couple times and then ask to see them eat. If the color is good, swimming fine and etc. I will buy and pay for them. I then ask the store to hold for a week to ten days. When I pick it up, I notice colors, swimming condition and eating habits again. I would say this has worked for me. Its almost as if the store is quarantining for me. With this effort, I am sure I am not getting a fish that was damaged in collecting or transporting. Also, I buy fish only from the best stores where I know they have been taken care of like Pure Reef who happens to be close to my house. That's my plan and its worked for me.

Joe

 

[shamanofsexy]

I don't q't 1 reason is space. 1 reason is on the fish itself.

It gets caught, (Bagged) transported, (unbagged) warehoused/watched, bought by store (rebagged) transported to store, (unbagged) bought by customer (bagged) transported home, q'td (bagged) display tank.

that 4 times being bagged in what could only be a month. It's very stressful for the fish to be chased with a net and caught and bagged. In my 6 years fish experience (only 18 months or marine so still a novice here) i've had just as much success not q'ting as i have from q'ting. I feel a fish is just as likely to get ill from stress of being chased around a q't tank as it is from any other cause.

In my freshwater days the majority of my fish that died quickly came from my q't tank into the display. (i only ever lost 1 fish that was in Q'T) I think a fish is less stressed if you take it home and put it straight into a place where it can make it's home rather than switching tanks an extra time.

 

[grouper therapy]

shamanofsexy;636261 wrote: I don't q't 1 reason is space. 1 reason is on the fish itself.

It gets caught, (Bagged) transported, (unbagged) warehoused/watched, bought by store (rebagged) transported to store, (unbagged) bought by customer (bagged) transported home, q'td (bagged) display tank.

that 4 times being bagged in what could only be a month. It's very stressful for the fish to be chased with a net and caught and bagged. In my 6 years fish experience (only 18 months or marine so still a novice here) i've had just as much success not q'ting as i have from q'ting. I feel a fish is just as likely to get ill from stress of being chased around a q't tank as it is from any other cause.

In my freshwater days the majority of my fish that died quickly came from my q't tank into the display. (i only ever lost 1 fish that was in Q'T) I think a fish is less stressed if you take it home and put it straight into a place where it can make it's home rather than switching tanks an extra time.

I can appreciate that what your saying is true but I still think too many of you are looking at it that the Qt is for the benefit of the NEW fish . It is just as much or more important for the fish you already have so that they avoid contamination.

 

[morganatlanta]

I can appreciate that what your saying is true but I still think too many of you are looking at it that the Qt is for the benefit of the NEW fish . It is just as much or more important for the fish you already have so that they avoid contamination.

I agree...

I don't quarantine, yet... I see QT as protection for the rest of your fish (and other inhabitants), not the new fish, and I don't yet have enough fish that I need to protect. I'm in the camp now of people that don't want the hassle of maintaining a separate QT system. That makes sense, until you have a mature system with lots of fish (and various inverts and such) that you love, and don't want to put at risk by introducing a new fish that is potentially a carrier for a variety of bad things. With a relatively new tank and few fish, I just don't think I've crossed that point yet. When I do, I'll start QT'ing.

 

[grouper therapy]

MorganAtlanta;636418 wrote: I agree...

I don't quarantine, yet... I see QT as protection for the rest of your fish (and other inhabitants), not the new fish, and I don't yet have enough fish that I need to protect. I'm in the camp now of people that don't want the hassle of maintaining a separate QT system. That makes sense, until you have a mature system with lots of fish (and various inverts and such) that you love, and don't want to put at risk by introducing a new fish that is potentially a carrier for a variety of bad things. With a relatively new tank and few fish, I just don't think I've crossed that point yet. When I do, I'll start QT'ing.

I respect that reply!:up: