RODI Problem!

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My waste water line has been running for 3 days now and I can't figure out why. My ATO is not running, my makeup water container is full and the float valve is functioning properly. I went under the house were all the lines run and there is no leak. Looked over the whole unit and no leak there either. How can I have waste water when there's no RODI being fed anywhere.
 
I have seen this before.. If you have an auto shut off valve then it might be bad. (leaking tap water over to the ro side)
 
How would I check the membrane? And are you talking about a float valve or something else? I have noticed that my output is at 12ppm now. I think I'm due to change the media out at this point.
 
auto shut off is a little white box that has 2 lines coming into it and two lines going out of it...


when they go bad... there is nothing to stop water from running through the RODI.. if you turn off the valve to stop the rodi IT IS what stops the prefiltered (stage1,2,3etc) water from entering the RO membrane housing..


it's either that or like jen said.. a busted RO membrane...
 
How old is the membrane? And how often do you change your sediment and carbon filters?

Keeping the sediment and carbon blocks clean (replaced fairly frequently depending on tap water quality) will extend the life of the membrane, because they take some junk out of the water before it gets to the membrane.

What's the TDS of unfiltered tap? TDS of 12 on the product water is high no matter what.

If the membrane is over 2 years old and/or if you weren't on top of changing the prefilters, it's quite likely the membrane is clogged and needs replacing.

You might also want to make sure all the hoses connecting the thing together aren't kinked - I've seen that happen before too.. something along the pathway is kinked and water can't get through.

Jenn
 
Unit was installed in April of last year and I haven't changed anything on it. My bad?

I do have an auto shut off like you're talking about, but I don't know how I would know if it's bad. I have no water coming out of anywhere but my waste line. The TDS of the tap is 78. Any way to visibly inspect the membrane?
 
I've found the ATOV doesn't work. most folks plumb to the drain and don't notice, but I use all my waste water. I noticed mine would keep running waste water almost all the time. Replaced the valve and the whole top rail with same results. I bet a lot of filters waste a lot of h2o. best bet is to just manually turn on when needed.

but Tex you are overdue for a filter change
 
jamescook;589421 wrote: I've found the ATOV doesn't work. most folks plumb to the drain and don't notice, but I use all my waste water. I noticed mine would keep running waste water almost all the time. Replaced the valve and the whole top rail with same results. I bet a lot of filters waste a lot of h2o. best bet is to just manually turn on when needed.

but Tex you are overdue for a filter change

Have had mine for almost 3 years, never had a problem with the shut off on it.
Anyway they look like this..

http://www.tbaquatics.com/shop/reverse-osmosis-auto-shutoff-valve-338.html?zenid=a1e643bbdf9253e1e6f3a3241ca8d85f">http://www.tbaquatics.com/shop/reverse-osmosis-auto-shutoff-valve-338.html?zenid=a1e643bbdf9253e1e6f3a3241ca8d85f</a>

John
 
A bad check valve on the premate will also cause water to leak past and a constant waste water drip.
 
JennM;589420 wrote: April 09? So the prefilters are 19 months old?

Yes, and I just ordered new ones from purewaterclub.com. Also, I turned off the source of water to the RODI and there's still some waste water coming out.
 
You should probably order a new membrane as well if you didn't already. If your prefilters are 18 months old + then your membrane is likely shot too since the prefilters probably stopped doing their jobs months ago.

We suggest changing the sediment and carbon cartridges every 3-6 months depending on the quality of the source water and/or usage (use more water = change more often).

If your cartridge canisters are clear, you should be able to see when the sediment/micron cartridge starts looking grubby, that's a good time to change both that and the carbon. The DI cartridges, for the most part, will change colours as they exhaust, so if you have clear canisters you can see that too (I don't like units with white or solid coloured canisters, you have to open them to get an idea what's happening in there).

$25 invested in an in-line dual TDS meter is a good idea too. You can push a button and toggle a switch to see what the source water TDS is, and the product water TDS, which will tell you in a second or two, if everything is performing as it should.

Something else too - now that it's really cold outside, your RO unit will work more slowly. Colder water = molecules are closer together. Takes longer for it to go through the membrane.

Jenn
 
Yeah, I got a new membrane as well. All together, it was dang near the cost of a new unit! I have clear DI resin chamber and it's probably 80% brown at this point. I have the in-line TDS meter. GREAT investment!
 
Betcha that prefilter looks like a mudpie when you open up that canister. :-x
 
JennM;589451 wrote: We suggest changing the sediment and carbon cartridges every 3-6 months depending on the quality of the source water and/or usage (use more water = change more often).Jenn


strange... I've been using mine over a year, making at least 20 gallons a week and my TDS is still 0...

no telling how old the filters were when I bought the unit (used)...


any reason to change the filters/membrane/DI resin if your TDS are still 0 ??
 
Maybe not - if the water going in is clean (lower TDS), then the filters will last longer.

The prefilters catch a lot of crud before it gets to the membrane, if those aren't kept clean, the membrane has to catch it, and as such, won't last as long.

20 gallons per week isn't much, so it's probably fine, but I'd have a look at the sediment filter if you cannot see it through a (clear) canister.

At the shop we have a 2 x 100g (2 membranes) unit and our source water is pretty gnarly, our sediment filter gets dirty every couple of months. We change our membranes about once a year, when we see the TDS get to 2 or 3. TDS going in ranges from 35-45.

I've seen TDS in the 200s in tap water - that will surely spend filters more quickly.

Jenn
 
I read a TDS of 38 going in and haven't changed my prefilter out in at least 2 years. However, I have a sediment filter on the main line going into the house and that thing gets nasty. Chocolate pudding nasty. If it weren't for that I'd probably have to change it out all the time.
 
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