Run vinegar for 3 days??

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I just got a used fish only set up and want to convert it to reef. My LFS advised that I run vinegar and tap water for 3 days before I start hauling RO jugs to start the cycling process. Any thoughts?

Thanks for the help
Stephen
 
Is this to clean up coraline algae from the tank and overflow?

Edit: Is this like an empty tank?
 
Not a bad idea. Vinegar is mostly used to clean off the calcium deposits. Your FO tank probably just needs a cleaning
 
The set up came with live rock as well.

Edit: The set up is over flow, sump, 2 pumps, skimmer and 2 koralia 3 pwr heads.
 
LR will not like vinegar and tap water and never should have been exposed to copper.

i'd put the rock in SW and just clean your tank
 
Would you be running tap water mixed with vinegar throughout your entire set-up listed above, with the live rock in the tank?

I wouldn't suggest that......

Vinegar won't remove copper, or anything else to my knowledge.

Vinegar (mixed with water) makes a good, somewhat acidic cleaner to remove calcareous algae build-up, that's about all it's good for. Even then, you don't need to fill your tank with vinegar and water and run it for three days to clean it....

Perhaps you miss understood?

Set up the tank as usual, using RODI salt water, and let it run a few days, then run some tests on it. I'd leave the vinegar alone for now until you're certain what it was recommended for.
 
Chony;720959 wrote: I just got a used fish only set up and want to convert it to reef. My LFS advised that I run vinegar and tap water for 3 days before I start hauling RO jugs to start the cycling process. Any thoughts?

Thanks for the help
Stephen

Why would you do that?
 
Agree with the above. Dont bother running tap and vinegar. If the tank is nasty dirty, rinse it out well, perhaps with vinegar/water solution to clean up any dirt/deposits that may have been caked on.

Maybe fill it with tap to run it for a bit as a check for leaks, etc.

Otherwise, I'd just clean it up and fill it with RO as dakota suggested.
 
Thanks for all the advice. I really hate relying on sources that I have not qualified as being credible. I really appreciate the help. I don't want this tank to be doomed from the start! Any other other tips on what to do before and during the cycle process?
 
Scrub any nuisance algae off the rock before you start the tank up. Do this with old SW from a recent waterchange, or make up new SW to curb die off.

If re-using old sand, rinse it very well in the same manor as above to keep dirt and silt to a minimum.

Don't rush it, let it run fallow a week at least after re-setting it up
 
I would take the time to run a water and vinegar mixture through the equipment to remove any deposits that may be there. It's better to do it now than later. Just MHO.

Edit: Just put the equipment in a bucket of the mix and let it run.
 
Chony;720995 wrote: Thanks for all the advice. I really hate relying on sources that I have not qualified as being credible. I really appreciate the help. I don't want this tank to be doomed from the start! Any other other tips on what to do before and during the cycle process?

Yep, don't use the old sand. Buy new live sand. It's not much and will save you a lot of heartache.

Trying to wash the sand is a complete waste of time and effort.
 
Yep, don't use the old sand. Buy new live sand. It's not much and will save you a lot of heartache.

Trying to wash the sand is a complete waste of time and effort.

I would disagree......

Even new live sand needs to be rinsed several times with saltwater to keep from getting a dust storm in your tank. If you're rinsing anyway, you might as well reuse the old, IMO.

Don't believe the print on the bag that reads "No rinsing required", or you'll have cloudy water for days, and again anytime the sandbed is disturbed....
 
Dakota9;721024 wrote: Yep, don't use the old sand. Buy new live sand. It's not much and will save you a lot of heartache.

Trying to wash the sand is a complete waste of time and effort.

I would disagree......

Even new live sand needs to be rinsed several times with saltwater to keep from getting a dust storm in your tank. If you're rinsing anyway, you might as well reuse the old, IMO.

Don't believe the print on the bag that reads "No rinsing required", or you'll have cloudy water for days, and again anytime the sandbed is disturbed....

+1

I did not wash my new sand and wish I would have. Its one big silt storm anytime it is disturbed.
 
I've always reused my sand..... It's sitting in storage right now, still dirty. I bought a new bag of Figi Pink a little over a year ago, and was amazed at how dusty that sand water!

Washing sand is a pain, but really necessary evil....
 
Dakota9;721024 wrote: Yep, don't use the old sand. Buy new live sand. It's not much and will save you a lot of heartache.

Trying to wash the sand is a complete waste of time and effort.

I would disagree......

Even new live sand needs to be rinsed several times with saltwater to keep from getting a dust storm in your tank. If you're rinsing anyway, you might as well reuse the old, IMO.

Don't believe the print on the bag that reads "No rinsing required", or you'll have cloudy water for days, and again anytime the sandbed is disturbed....

It's not the cloudiness that's of concern, it's the years of poop buildup and the newly dead lifeforms in the old sand.

Caribsea live sands will clear up within a few hours (unless you're doing something horribly wrong).
 
^ Again, I disagree..... That cloudiness takes much longer to clear up than a few hours, and even then, as stated earlier, everytime the sandbed is disturbed, you water turns cloudy again, which THAT only lasts a few hours, thankfully.......

It matters little if you're rinsing poo or rinsing dust, both dirty and new sand needs to be rinsed, albeit dirty sand requires a bit more rinsing, but it saves you a trip to the LFS.....
 
Dakota9;721034 wrote: ^ Again, I disagree..... That cloudiness takes much longer to clear up than a few hours, and even then, as stated earlier, everytime the sandbed is disturbed, you water turns cloudy again, which THAT only lasts a few hours, thankfully.......

It matters little if you're rinsing poo or rinsing dust, both dirty and new sand needs to be rinsed, albeit dirty sand requires a bit more rinsing, but it saves you a trip to the LFS.....

Dont know what you're using, but craibsea doesn't need rinsing and will not cloud the water when disturbed. Dry sand, yes. "live sand", no.

In tens of thousands of gallons in tanks, it's only taken a few hours to clear up, never to get cloudy again. Maybe the filtration cleared it the first time, but subsequent disruptions are clear for me.
 
skriz;721037 wrote: dont know what you're using, but craibsea doesn't need rinsing and will not cloud the water when disturbed. Dry sand, yes. "live sand", no.

In tens of thousands of gallons in tanks, it's only taken a few hours to clear up, never to get cloudy again. Maybe the filtration cleared it the first time, but subsequent disruptions are clear for me.
ok...............
 
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