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[acroholic]

Mikesmith34;993409 wrote: I would have thought you would have the bean animal on that big monster of yours.

To the OP ... I had no idea what these types of drains were either. It's just differant types of drains//returns. Go on you tube and type in herbie drain and bean animal drains or you can just goggle it. It will be a lot easier to understand because it has pictures and videos and you can understand the differant types

I have two, two inch open bulkheads that drain my 465 gallon tank. Basically, zero chance of any thing getting into my overflows, not even light, because of the design and covers involved. Nothing wider than 1/8 inch can get in.

My 100 gallon reef is a basic in-tank center stop like what most others have.

But one huge advantage anyone can set up is a moderate to low return pump flow rate. I have never used a high flow rate through any of my sumps. Not needed and unnecessary, IMO. So if you flow less than your overflow can handle in the first place, you have a built in safety factor, even in a single Durso type overflow. I let my six MP60s handle my in-tank flow in the 465, not my return pump.

 

[reeferkeifer]

Is there anyway to quiet this? I added a ball down to the return line and dial it down a little bit and opened my drain line 100%. As you can hear and see it is pretty loud and does not seem to be finding that mix between the air and water flow. Not to mention the water level in my tank is now lower then I wanted to be.

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[acroholic]

ReeferKeifer;993546 wrote: Is there anyway to quiet this? I added a ball down to the return line and dial it down a little bit and opened my drain line 100%. As you can hear and see it is pretty loud and does not seem to be finding that mix between the air and water flow. Not to mention the water level in my tank is now lower then I wanted to be.

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From the video, it sounds like the majority of the sound is not coming from the overflow, but where the water enters the filter sock area and splashes onto the acrylic sock holder. Nice sump......I have an MRC on my 465.

Anyone else notice this from Keifer's video?

 

[reeferkeifer]

Thanks. I tried putting my finger with a water splashes and I really didn't quite it. Could it be the rushing water as it's coming down the pipe?

 

[reeferkeifer]

I'm not sure how to adjust but I think it's something to do with the air and water flow mixture in the pipe. Because when I close the drain ball valve a little bit it quiets right up and you don't even hear the water splashing on the sump.

 

[mikesmith34]

I had pretty much the same set up and got tired of the loud noise. It sits right behind the couch as we watch tv. I did some research as to how to quite the thing down. Utilizing the same two bulkheads in a reef ready tank. That's when I went herbie and brought the return over the back of the tank. Very easy to do and tune so that at siphon it is almost dead quite. If set up right it is safer than only having one drain line. If your drain gets clogged for any reason it could be mop up time. With the herbie I got better flow, better control, a lot quiter AND a back up emergency drain.
Dave has years more experience than I but on my 90 gallon RR tank the results were great. Just Google how to set up a herbie and look it over.

 

[reeferkeifer]

Success! . It's like angels whispering. I added an elbow and a 45 at the end of the drain line and boom... quiet. Thanks for everyone's input, including SEA Atlanta and Aquarium Center.

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[acroholic]

Acroholic;993552 wrote: From the video, it sounds like the majority of the sound is not coming from the overflow, but where the water enters the filter sock area and splashes onto the acrylic sock holder.

Ha!!!!

 

[jennm]

In the original post you mentioned that the gurgling mostly happens after feeding. The oils in the foods will change the surface tension of the water for a while - I have had that change in drain sound too. It's normal.

You'll also find that your skimmer will stop fractionating for a little while after feeding or having your hands in the tank, that's also normal.

I'm glad Dave was on the ball and covered the 'not restricting the drain'... that's a recipe for disaster.

Jenn

 

[camellia]

Thanks for posting the pictures, sorry for late response (I knew you were in good hands).
I've never seen a sump with socks positioned like yours (but that means nothing).

What I was referring to with the PVC pipe is to extend it down from you return line (with holes drilled in it) into the water (socks) as it appeared your noise was coming from the water dropping. I was assuming you had your return "hard Plummed" with PVC, not!

It sounds like you have got it fixed, however I am a little surprised that you can't still hear the water splashing.

Welcome to the Mr Fix it world of salt water, so many areas of knowledge needed

 

[camellia]

reeferkeifer;993340 wrote: thanks dave and everyone else that jumped in on the thread. This site and all its members kicks a**. One of these days, i will be able to respond the same way you guys do to a newbie reefer.

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