ghbrewer;1023234 wrote: IMO, trying to keep a bunch of rock and sand inside a sump just makes things more difficult. It sounds like you have enough rock in the display for biological filtration. Sumps are meant to be a place for solids to settle, so that you can clean it out of the system easily. The skimmer is not going to get everything, and things will find a place to settle out. A clean sump, with only the essential equipment that is necessary, and easy to access and clean is what I have found to work best for myself. Adding a bunch of unnecessary equipment and junk just make things harder, and less desirable to do what needs to be done. If you cannot siphon the sump, then the aforementioned wetvac (or bucket vac) will do the job.