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I saw a manderine goby today at my LFS. They are very pretty but I refrained. I wanted to get opinions. I would like to add one to my tank but will it work? I currently have a blue spot watchman goby, my replacement fire goby came in (he is all over the place. Such a huge difference than the last one) 2 bangi cardinals, 2 green chromis, and hermit crabs, I have ZOA's, frogspawn, pulsating zinea, and two other types I can remember the names. I am planning on adding 4 clowns, 2 ocellaris and 2 Darwin, maybe a yellow tang, and one other tang. I have a 130 gallon tank, with metal halide bulbs. It won't be anytime soon that I will adding anything else just yet but I'm trying to decide what I want to add. I've narrowed my list down I'm just undecided on the manderin and the last tang. So what do u think?would it work?
 
Two tangs are a bad idea in that tank IMHO. And since it seems like your tank is new, a dragonette (mandarin) is a very bad idea.
 
+1.but I did it LOLOL. Mandarins mainly eat Copods. So unless you buy Copods each month to put in your tank you shouldn't get one. Established tanks usually have lots of Copods. I just bought copds once a week and put then directly in my display... After about 9 months they finally got established and I ended up getting a nother mandarin. They both still live happily together.
 
Xyzpdq0121;937382 wrote: Two tangs are a bad idea in that tank IMHO. And since it seems like your tank is new, a dragonette (mandarin) is a very bad idea.

Depends on what kind go tangs lol. I think theirs a couple people on this forum with about 3 tangs in their tank. That is pushing it a lot but I think it's possible to fit 2 tangs in a 130. And btw wasn't trying to get of topic.....
 
A 130g tank should support a mandarin as long as you have an established copepod population and no competitors. I would not put two pairs of clownfish in that tank, however.

If your tank is 48" I would only add one tang. If your tank is longer you might</em> get away with one more tang IF you add it first and make in one of the smaller Ctenochaetus</em> species. Yellow tangs generally do not like tang additions after them.
 
stacy22;937393 wrote: A 130g tank should support a mandarin as long as you have an established copepod population and no competitors. I would not put two pairs of clownfish in that tank, however.

If your tank is 48" I would only add one tang. If your tank is longer you might</em> get away with one more tang IF you add it first and make in one of the smaller Ctenochaetus</em> species. Yellow tangs generally do not like tang additions after them.


yup
 
I_will_always_learn;937384 wrote: +1.but I did it LOLOL. Mandarins mainly eat Copods. So unless you buy Copods each month to put in your tank you shouldn't get one. Established tanks usually have lots of Copods. I just bought copds once a week and put then directly in my display... After about 9 months they finally got established and I ended up getting a nother mandarin. They both still live happily together.

Where do you buy you copods from? I just rebooted my system and I would like to get a healthy population of pods going in my tank.

I see a lot of online vendors have them, but have had a hard time finding any locally. Where did you get yours from?
 
I bought some of then from optimun aquarium and also creation reef and aquatics.
Both had many pods. But the ones at creation reef I believe were tigger pods. A bigger variety.
 
JeffMuse;937410 wrote: Where do you buy you copods from? I just rebooted my system and I would like to get a healthy population of pods going in my tank.

I see a lot of online vendors have them, but have had a hard time finding any locally. Where did you get yours from?


Have you tried Pure Reef in Alpharetta? I believe they are having a huge anniversary sale this weekend.



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Like I said, I think it is a bad idea in MY opinion. Tangs in a 48" tank alone is a bad idea in MY opinion much less two. Most people are also not going to spend $20 a month feeding one $18 fish. If you are, and can keep it up month are month, more power to you. I did not say it could not be dobe, just that it was a very bad idea in MY opinion. But most people do not think about the difference between the fish thriving vs surviving.
 
stacy22;937393 wrote: A 130g tank should support a mandarin as long as you have an established copepod population and no competitors. I would not put two pairs of clownfish in that tank, however.

If your tank is 48" I would only add one tang. If your tank is longer you might</em> get away with one more tang IF you add it first and make in one of the smaller Ctenochaetus</em> species. Yellow tangs generally do not like tang additions after them.


I have to disagree with the tang deal... I think a lot has to do with the species of tang and the order in which they are added. Currently in my 48" 150 I have a blonde Naso and a yellow tang. Yellow added first and both Ive had for 3 years.

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If you want a Mandarin buy a 2000 pod pack from Reefs2go.com. Put half in the display and half in your refugium. Wait about 6-8 months and then you can add a Mandarin successfully.
 
Many different mixed opinions. Lol the Mandarin I was looking at getting is actually already eating brine shrimp and reef flakes.... I know pods is their main food in the wild but this little guy is readily accepting other foods.... just to throw that out there. The tank is actually 72" inches.... I have a 55 that is 48" but my reef tank is 72". I was more or less trying to see your opinions on the Mandarin and then on species of tang. Not so much whether two tangs will work. I've seen two tangs work is several different situations. All of them being in smaller tanks than mine. I know adding them separately is the way to go but which ones are the best kept and which ones are the prettiest. And for the clowns. I spoke with merkywater and if I get 2 juvenile ocellaris then in 6 to 7 months when he's got darwin clownfish ready I can get 2 juveniles from him. Being they are both ocellaris species there will be a a heiarchy formed and my darwin will end up smaller but they can work. If I was going for different species of clowns then I would have an issue.
 
Well then you got it all figured out.. orange shoulder tand and chevron tang would be my choice of tangs.
 
I've seen chevron tangs, but never heard of an orange shoulder. Gonna have to Google it. Lol I will say this tho. I think I'm gonna hold off on the Mandarin for a while. I'll wait even if the little guy whose eating right would be ok in there. Just for my own sanity I'm going to refrain.
 
Not a fan of the orange shoulder... but I think chevron is gonna stay. What about the Kole tang?
 
I have a Chevron & yellow tang in a 108 gallon tank and they have been living in Harmony for 2 years
 
Not only there an issue of compatibility with Tangs but the amount of open space they have to swim in. But with that said, Mandarin Goby's can be hit or miss with feeding frozen and flake foods, mostly miss. They are poor or I should say slow hunters. If your stocking level is such that the goby has to compete with a lot of faster eaters, just hand feeding the whole tank may not work. A well established pod population is the best for them in the long run.

As for clowns, I would also suggest contacting jamescook how has been breeding clowns for several years. Another opinion won't hurt.
 
They have a lot of open space to swim. Lol I mean a lot. The Mandarin like I said I will be waiting a while. Lol I have quite a few slow eaters. So it won't be bad but I do want a good pod population going first
 
BrandonMason;937439 wrote: I have to disagree with the tang deal... I think a lot has to do with the species of tang and the order in which they are added. Currently in my 48" 150 I have a blonde Naso and a yellow tang. Yellow added first and both Ive had for 3 years.

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If you read numerous</em> accounts of people with multiple tangs in their tanks you will find that adding another tang to an existing yellow tang has been problematic. Are there exceptions? Of course, but I stand firmly by my advice of placing the most aggressive fish last and yellow tangs are much more aggressive as a species than the Ctenochaetus </em>that I recommended.

Also, I would never place a tang that grows to potentially 1' in a 48" tank.
 
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