A Beginner's Guide To Dosing With Calcium

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#1 - How would you dose if you're not (yet) using a calcium reactor?

#2 - What's a good, easy-to-use product?

#3 - How often?

#4 - What critters benefit from calcium?

#5 - Are any animals intolerant of calcium?

#6 - Hints? Pitfalls? Warnings?
 
A Biology major and can't spell precipitate?! Just messing with you.
 
here ya go:


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if you use a salt like Seachem Reef (or even TMPR), you don't have to dose as much, so more room for error.

dosing depends upon what you want. 2 part already made is the most expensive, however, if it's a small tank then it doesn't cost that much anyway. a larger tank with a high demand, you'll need to make it up yourself, or get a reactor or kalk.

research some of those articles. then post back. it should become clearer on what you want to do.

Aragamilk=worthless as it doesn't become soluble enough for corals.
 
mysterybox;278344 wrote:


if you use a salt like Seachem Reef (or even TMPR), you don't have to dose as much, so more room for error.

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Amen. I use Seachem and do consistent PWC's and still haven't had to dose. I have a gallon of 2-part sitting ready to go but my calcium still hasn't dropped below 430. While my SPS's aren't large yet, I have about 20 mounted and 10 on frag racks in a 28 gallon with no noticable loss of calcium or magnesium and pretty high growth rates. Alkalinity seems to be the only parameter I have to dose as it will drop between PWC's.
 
the directions on the bottle are also pretty clear with most of the products I have seen..

just test your calcium and adjust accordingly.. thats what I do

if you use a 2 part make sure you wait a minute or two because if you add them together it will solidify and be worthless
 
Thanks, all... this is a great springboard for my research.

Also, does the substrate affect calcium or determine how/what/when you suppliment? I have black sand -- didn't know if that made a difference.
 
Steve;278314 wrote: A Biology major and can't spell precipitate?! Just messing with you.
We have another "captain spell check" citing!!!
Yes, I spelled "sighting" wrong to screw with you....
Dude, haven't you received enough grief to give up you grammar reviewing ways???
 
Linda,
I use bionics 2 part as well as a few other additives.
I'm not familiar with your tank, so I can't say... I use 13 ml of parts 1 and 2 per day. Occasionally, I have to add mag, buffers, ect.
I can tell you a little more tomorrow when you come to get the frag..
I doubt that there are any critters that don't tolerate cal as sea h20 is 350+.

Linda Lee;278307 wrote: #1 - How would you dose if you're not (yet) using a calcium reactor?

#2 - What's a good, easy-to-use product?

#3 - How often?

#4 - What critters benefit from calcium?

#5 - Are any animals intolerant of calcium?

#6 - Hints? Pitfalls? Warnings?
 
I have recently switched over to the Bulkreefsupply additives. I'm happy so far and its alot cheaper on medium to large tanks with SPS.
 
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This is an interesting article. I didnt know you could do this.
I wonder if anyone here make there own. Looks like it may save a few bucks but takes a lot of time.
Cool!
 
Oh yeah...I use the ESV 2 part kit with a little automatic doser. But, its only a 75 gallon tank so its not too expensive.

The 2 part kit may get a little pricey on a larger setup.
 
I use bionic part 1 and 2 same stuff darren uses. We all know his tank works great.
 
#1, #2, #3: Seachem products, either the reefbuilder/buffer/calcium or the Aquavitro line, are easily the most forgiving method in the business to keep a reef in great shape.

http://www.garf.org/bulletproofreef/bulletproof.asp">GARF's Bullet Proof Reef calculator</a> is a great starting point for how much of Seachem's products to use on your reef as well as a great method that's easy for beginners.

#4 - Everything but the fish, though they would use calcium (I assume) for bone structure, so technically, just about everything but stuff like flatworms and sea slugs.

#5 - All animals are intollerant of certain forms of dosing calcium if not administered propperly. Too much kalkwasser will kill just about anything in the tank.

#6a: Start with something that comes with complete, detailed directions and is designed to be used as a system. That is, if you decide on two-part, use one company's two-part as well as their other suggested methods of dosing additional additives (such as magnesium). If you go with Seachem, use either all the necessary Aquavitro products or the older builder/buffer/calcium ones. Mixing and matching is not for the beginner.

#6b: Test often when begining a new dosing regimen until you're sure the amounts you're using are getting the numbers you want.

#6c: What works for one person may not work as well for you or at all. Every tank is different.
 
Thank you!

This thread has been very helpful.

What's a good (beginner) test kit for calc?

George;279427 wrote: #6b: Test often when begining a new dosing regimen until you're sure the amounts you're using are getting the numbers you want.
 
Linda Lee;279472 wrote: Thank you!

This thread has been very helpful.

What's a good (beginner) test kit for calc?

I would suggest you spend the extra 10 bucks and get Elos kits. actually, there might be a powerbuy going on right now. They seem to me to be the best, most consistent & easiest out their for HOBBIESTS. I spent more money than you'd want to know from cheap test kits and chasing bad numbers.
 
Linda Lee;279472 wrote: What's a good (beginner) test kit for calc?
Salifert test kits are quite good and reasonably priced. Seachem also makes very consistent kits.

If you choose to go with Seachem products, however, I would say don't use anything other than the Seachem test kits. From talking to them when they've been at our meetings, their products work best as a suite.
 
After reading some of those articles Mystery directed you to, I am considering giving the Limewater or Kalkwasser a try. Looks like it can be purchased dry,mixed up, and dose with the top off water.

Dont mean to thread jack...but I am interested too.:D

Anyone have any experience using kalkwasser without a reactor?
 
Absolutely any discussion on this thread is welcome. Others will come up with questions that I've not thought of, mostly because I've never dosed with calcium and don't even know all the right questions to ask.

Call it a jam-session. Not hi-jacking. The more input, the better.

:)
 
After trying many different products I chose to use Bulkreef supply just because of price. When you get into medium to larger sytems 2 part can break you. A whole 250ml bottle of kent or brightwell 2 part dosn't even hardly budge my new system. I can get 2 gallons of BRS for the cost of 1 250ml bottle of other stuff. As for dosing it takes a little figuring out and alot of testing at first. Basically you are trying to figure out what the daily uptake of your sytem is then dose accordingly.

I am also currently looking into dosing Kalk with my topoff. You can build a reactor for cheap out of water filter canister then just plumb it into the ATO. I am going to give it a shot as soon as I get my ATO setup.
 
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