Right, I'd use neosporin, or if it was really bad, a prescribed antibiotic. I wasn't aware in which scenario kanaplex would be better than metronidazole, but I do have some kanaplex that doesn't expire until 2016 that Dylan gave me when I was had a sick fish. It does say to use it for fin rot on the container just like you suggested.
Advice on fin rot?
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Right, I'd use neosporin, or if it was really bad, a prescribed antibiotic. I wasn't aware in which scenario kanaplex would be better than metronidazole, but I do have some kanaplex that doesn't expire until 2016 that Dylan gave me when I was had a sick fish. It does say to use it for fin rot on the container just like you suggested.
An alternative to Kanaplex (which is Kanamyacin), Seachem also makes Neoplex, which is Neomycin. Same kind of stuff as Neosporin. It's a stronger medicine, a bit more costly. Kanaplex will usually solve many ills, Neoplex is what I'd use if the Kanaplex yielded no result.
Here's a link to Seachem's medicines and what they treat: http://www.seachem.com/Products/Medications.html">http://www.seachem.com/Products/Medications.html</a>
Kanaplex specifies fin and tail rot: [IMG]http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/KanaPlex.html">http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/KanaPlex.html</a>
Neoplex doesn't specify fin and tail rot either: [IMG]http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/NeoPlex.html">http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/NeoPlex.html</a> However it's a broad spectrum antibiotic. As I mentioned, it's usually more expensive, but I've found it has worked when the Kanaplex hasn't.
Metronidazole does not specify that ailment: [IMG]http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Metronidazole.html">http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Metronidazole.html</a>
Focus is also antibacterial but its main function is to bind another medication to the food. The directions say 5:1 ratio, but from the folks at Seachem, I've been told, and have used a 1:1 ratio with excellent results.
We usually mix 1:1 scoop of each medicine in about a tablespoon or 3 cubes of frozen food. Larger batch for more fish/longer feeding period. Use a serving right away, put the rest in a zipper bag and flatten it out and re-freeze, so pieces can be broken off for subsequent feedings.
No problem Jenn. I thought it was just an interesting factoid about being used in WWII, but your vampire comment sounded quite disbelieving and somewhat disparaging, hence the Medical Publication link.JennM;975153 wrote: I get it, Dave
Never did I say it wouldn't help. I just don't think that it is a substitute for proper treatment of a fish that has been through a lengthy period of foul water, and that now has what may be an infection.
It's a damsel. I've always joked you can run over them with a truck and they keep coming back - however OP lost one recently during the same lengthy problem with water quality.
Treat, don't treat... not my circus, not my monkeys. I've done about all I can in this thread.
With all this garlic talk, I'm hungry.
Jenn
I agree proper abx treatment is the correct course for any reef fish.
I was attempting (apparently uneffectively) to add some levity.
If you go back to where garlic was first mentioned, I stated that we used it routinely, hence, agreeing that it is beneficial. I also mentioned that in the fish world, there is some controversy about that. Not my controversy, but there are some who don't think it's beneficial, and may be harmful, in fact.
I'm not one of those people. Just bringing in some other ideas that are out there.
In this particular instance, some readers may not be aware of the bigger picture (ie the prolonged exposure of the fish to foul water). http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92473">The thread is 13 pages long.</a> I dropped in on page 8. Water quality has only been resolved for ~5 days (post 247). Other damsel died 15 days ago (post 190).
Hence my concern and my recommendation.
There is usually method to my madness.
Jenn
If you go back to where garlic was first mentioned, I stated that we used it routinely, hence, agreeing that it is beneficial. I also mentioned that in the fish world, there is some controversy about that. Not my controversy, but there are some who don't think it's beneficial, and may be harmful, in fact.
I'm not one of those people. Just bringing in some other ideas that are out there.
In this particular instance, some readers may not be aware of the bigger picture (ie the prolonged exposure of the fish to foul water). http://www.atlantareefclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92473">The thread is 13 pages long.</a> I dropped in on page 8. Water quality has only been resolved for ~5 days (post 247). Other damsel died 15 days ago (post 190).
Hence my concern and my recommendation.
There is usually method to my madness.
Jenn
For what it's worth, Bob Fenner isn't a fan of garlic either:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/garlicfaqs.htm">http://www.wetwebmedia.com/garlicfaqs.htm</a>
Just throwing that out there, to stir the pot.
Like I said, I used it routinely, not to excess, and I think the benefits outweighed the risks.
Having said that, just like almost everything else in this hobby, there are many ways to do things, so the best thing to do is to seek out as much information as is practical, and add a dose of common sense.
Jenn
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/garlicfaqs.htm">http://www.wetwebmedia.com/garlicfaqs.htm</a>
Just throwing that out there, to stir the pot.
Like I said, I used it routinely, not to excess, and I think the benefits outweighed the risks.
Having said that, just like almost everything else in this hobby, there are many ways to do things, so the best thing to do is to seek out as much information as is practical, and add a dose of common sense.
Jenn
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Well that turned quickly.
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Let me just say- before any more feathers are intentionally, or unintentionally ruffled, I wasn't ever debating the fact that garlic is most likely not the cure for what's occuring. In fact, I recall mentioning that while it is medicinal, it's no prescription med.
I think it's the tone here that a lot of folks use that gets people riled up. Clearly there are very experienced, well versed, doctorate-level fish keepers in this club and there are noobs like me.. but I think if we could maybe reach some kind of middle ground where that separation wasn't made so apparent via snarky commentary and caustic criticisms.. That'd be cool.
Just be cool, everyone.
I think it's the tone here that a lot of folks use that gets people riled up. Clearly there are very experienced, well versed, doctorate-level fish keepers in this club and there are noobs like me.. but I think if we could maybe reach some kind of middle ground where that separation wasn't made so apparent via snarky commentary and caustic criticisms.. That'd be cool.
Just be cool, everyone.
This whole debate reminds me of one time when I used to work at a sandwich shop. A guy comes in and says that he wants a veggie sub, with mushrooms. The cashier explained to him that our mushrooms were not vegetarian. The mushrooms were sautéed in a sauce that contained anchovies, but she left that part out. The guy was outraged. He exclaimed "Since when is a mushroom not a vegetable!?"
This is when I stepped in. I told the guy as politely as possible that mushrooms are not vegetables, and they never have been. The guy stormed out, and later sent an email to the district manager in total outrage that I told him that mushrooms are not vegetables.
My only point was that a mushroom is not a vegetable, not whether mushrooms in general are considered part of a vegetarian diet, or anything other than the simple, indisputable scientific fact: mushrooms are not vegetables.
This is when I stepped in. I told the guy as politely as possible that mushrooms are not vegetables, and they never have been. The guy stormed out, and later sent an email to the district manager in total outrage that I told him that mushrooms are not vegetables.
My only point was that a mushroom is not a vegetable, not whether mushrooms in general are considered part of a vegetarian diet, or anything other than the simple, indisputable scientific fact: mushrooms are not vegetables.
Sounds like your customer was a real fungi :lol:
Sorry - I couldn't resist that one, you opened the door wiiiiiiiiiiiiide for that joke!
OceanDeep - Not sure whose feathers you think are 'ruffled' but you used that expression in your other thread too. Are yours ruffled? If so, that's not the intention here, not by me, and I don't see it by anyone else. I'm sensing that our brand of dry humour is not shared, perhaps?
What I see is a good discussion, isn't that the purpose? There's good information here. Take it or leave it, that's up to you. For me, I realize that others may also be reading either now, or down the road when they do a similar search on the topic, so hopefully the information shared, will be of value to someone at some point. That's why I'm here - to help. And to make crappy jokes.
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Um. Ok?
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