Buffered Sodium Ascorbate!

[weaglereefer]

gnashty;542734 wrote: You sunk my battleship!! the low float when tripped turns on ato - when it floats again it kicks off the ato - top one is only if the bottom one fails to turn off the ato and prevents a spill. that was my setup with my old sump - my new sump can hole the entire tank

I toyed with the idea of doing timed method this when I was adding kalk to my ATO for some consistency but I really dont have that issue anymore. My ATO tank is only 10 gal so if the ATO fails worse case is the ATO pump burns or I add a max of 10 gal water to my system which would be like .5% total system volume - likely wouldnt throw off any parameters persay.

You could switch to an Aqualifter pump, which won't fail when it pumps air, it will just be an air pump.

Decimals are tricky :lol2:

A 5% change is not huge, and would be like going from 1.026 to 1.025, not a huge deal, you're right, but if it's easy to fix, why not?

And suppose you have a power failure right after the ATO fails. Will the water returning to the tank cause the sump to overflow? :sad:

 

[gnashty]

au01st;542744 wrote: You could switch to an Aqualifter pump, which won't fail when it pumps air, it will just be an air pump.

<u>Decimals are tricky</u> :lol2:

A 5% change is not huge, and would be like going from 1.026 to 1.025, not a huge deal, you're right, but if it's easy to fix, why not?

And suppose you have a power failure right after the ATO fails. Will the water returning to the tank cause the sump to overflow? :sad:

I know!! -they really arent though and Im in the middle of a $250M sale working with spreadsheets all day long - I have one minimized while I respond here.....guess i better dble check my work again!

I have an aqualifter in the garage - i hooked it up to the ATO when i first got it and when the switch triggered it - it wouldnt stop pumping...:confused2:

And yes - if the ATO failed then the power failed i would have a slightly wet floor - not flooded but that 10 gal would be on the floor. my sump holds EXACTLY the return water but not a liter more

 

[weaglereefer]

gnashty;542755 wrote: I know!! -they really arent though and Im in the middle of a $250M sale working with spreadsheets all day long - I have one minimized while I respond here.....guess i better dble check my work again!

I have an aqualifter in the garage - i hooked it up to the ATO when i first got it and when the switch triggered it - it wouldnt stop pumping...:confused2:*1

And yes - if the ATO failed then the power failed i would have a slightly wet floor - not flooded but that 10 gal would be on the floor. my sump holds EXACTLY the return water but not a liter*2 more

*1 Put the Aqualifter on channel 1 or 4. :thumbs:

*2 This is America. We use cups and gallons, not litres. :up:

 

[lilrobb]

au01st;542761 wrote: *2 This is America. We use cups and gallons, not litres. :up:

But you don't have to show the rest of the world that you're still 1492 years behind...

 

[gnashty]

au01st;542761 wrote: *1 Put the Aqualifter on channel 1 or 4. :thumbs:

*2 This is America. We use cups and gallons, not litres. :up:

Hey - I buy cola by the liter.......cant i get a liter a cola?

why 1 or 4????

 

[weaglereefer]

I don't want a Large Farva!

:hijacked:

 

[gnashty]

:lol2:

*does this look like spit to you?*

 

[gnashty]

AndyMan;542770 wrote: 1&4 use relay outputs
2&3 are "solid state" driven and need to see current draw to operate correctly

What the french, toast???

How did I not know this???

 

[weaglereefer]

AndyMan;542773 wrote: hmmmmm RTFM:yay:

FTMFW :up:

 

[gnashty]

Any updates on your Vit C dosing and the long term results/effects?. I have cruised the massive RC thread and decided (skepticallY) to start yesterday, thanks for the hookup Jeff!

The RC thread suggests dosing twice daily but here suggest once weekly so I am a little confused. I started with 15 ppm, 2 teaspoons total for 230 gallons of water volume.

 

[enderg60]

Bump for updates.

Id like to hear some results, and how you all are dosing it(times per week and in liquid or powder form)

 

[gnashty]

I dosed for a while - 2 tsp weekly in a 230 gal system. didnt notice much of anything but my naso did have ich before i started dosing and after the first week it went away - cant attribute it to the vit c though. Corals colors looked better, zoas stopped melting, fish look healthier.....i cannot directly tie this to the Vit C though

I have had a bad brown algae problem on the glass since i started though - still going on long after I stopped dosing so cant blame the vit c either.

 

[rolo65]

I started dosing C as well and have had brown algea on the sand and a little on the rocks here and there....nothing that hasnt been taken care of by the sailfin and CUC...

 

[acroholic]

I don't know if this stuff works or not. Unfortunately, the first couple threads I read on vitamin C dosing (Reef Central/R2R) heralded it as the silver bullet that would cure a variety of tank issues, everything from poor coral colors to non-growing zoanthids to it being a cure for HLLE, so it immediately got placed by me in the snake oil category, right next to the Eco Aqualizer. It still is there, for me at least.

 

[fish scales2]

:lol2::lol2::lol2:

AndrewG;575438 wrote: You telling me the Eco Aqualizer doesn't work? I have like 6 of those in my display tank sump. I've noticed it increases my fishes appetite. Of course it works better when you don't feed them for a few days.

 

[acroholic]

AndrewG;575438 wrote: You telling me the Eco Aqualizer doesn't work? I have like 6 of those in my display tank sump. I've noticed it increases my fishes appetite. Of course it works better when you don't feed them for a few days.

:lol2:

 

[enderg60]

I ordered some of it, and Im gonna give it a try.

the 1tsp/100g per that simon recommended is WAY less then what they recommend in the RC forum, so Ill start with that and if I see good things Ill try the higher/more frequent dosage.

Stuff should arrive today, so we'll see how it goes.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

Acroholic;575436 wrote: I don't know if this stuff works or not. Unfortunately, the first couple threads I read on vitamin C dosing (Reef Central/R2R) heralded it as the silver bullet that would cure a variety of tank issues, everything from poor coral colors to non-growing zoanthids to it being a cure for HLLE, so it immediately got placed by me in the snake oil category, right next to the Eco Aqualizer. It still is there, for me at least.

Well, Vit C DOES have biological value in boosting immune systems. That is science. However, the lengths to which certain hobbyists will go with their claims is quite laughable sometimes. Snake oil, I would not claim it. It will have benefit if dosed. To what extent is questionable. It is very similar to those who profess garlic "helps". But, comparing it to the eco-aqualizer is quite unfair, IMO.

 

[enderg60]

where is that thread on the eco aqualizer? that sounds funny

 

[acroholic]

jmaneyapanda;576154 wrote: Well, Vit C DOES have biological value in boosting immune systems. That is science. However, the lengths to which certain hobbyists will go with their claims is quite laughable sometimes. Snake oil, I would not claim it. It will have benefit if dosed. To what extent is questionable. It is very similar to those who profess garlic "helps". But, comparing it to the eco-aqualizer is quite unfair, IMO.

Maybe it is unfair, at least Vit C does have biological function, whereas the Eco Aqualizer doesn't. But the actual value as an additive to the reef tank is still very questionable, IMO.

But I have always preferred to give my fish their Vitamin C thru their diet with a variety of foods (Nori especially). JMO, but if you feed a varied diet to your fish you are probably meeting most of their nutritional needs and dosing Vitamin C is probably redundant.

My opinion may be a bit biased, however, because I personally think most of the nutritional additives sold are unnecessary and basically a waste of money. I do not dose anything in my reef tanks, meaning amino acids, garlic, food soaks, coral specific target foods, anything related to coral color or vitamins for fish, etc.

Offering a varied diet to your fish should provide the fish and corals with anything you would dose specifically, like vitamin C and the rest. I would rather take the $ I'd spend on those additives you really don't know if they work or not and spend it on high quality food.

I haven't dosed anything in the last two years and just provide a varied diet to my fish with zero target feeding of any corals, and I have five healthy tangs (and many other healthy fish) with no HLLE and corals with good color and fantastic growth.

Chemical stability, good water flow, proper lighting, and quality food are the key areas I believe that make a successful, healthy reef system with thriving fish and corals. The above JMO.