Hlle

[legalreefer]

Im 99% sure my regal tang has it. I did a quick search on it and they all say pretty much the same thing. I have two concers 1) What is causing it? I run carbon (marineland), 0 nitrates, I have no idea abot stray voltage as I do not have a meter nor know how to use one. 2)How do I treat is. I put garlic when I mix the frozen foods. He eats plenty of that and nori. Sorry for the crummy BB pics

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Edit: It is worse than the picture allows you to see.

 

[KrisDeitz]

Some say Carbon Does it.

 

[bdooley]

+1 on the carbon

 

[sewer urchin]

I've read a few articles that indicate carbon fines seem to cause it. Also read that stress and nutritional deficiencies can cause HLLE.

My first thought is to contact Jenn at Imagine Ocean, the reason being is that she has had several "rescues" at the store. I believe that once damage has happened to a fish it is irreversible, the sore spots may heal but there is a lot of scarring.

 

[ralph atl]

Stop using carbon, use a sunstitute...............

try nori on a clip with a few drops of Selcon.

 

[legalreefer]

What is a good substitute for carbon?

 

[falos]

Poly filter

 

[dawgface]

Also consider using high grade carbon.

 

[ralph atl]

purigen

(after fishy is back to health, you could try a ROX carbon from brs as mentioned)

 

[legalreefer]

Thank you all for the advice. I will take it out of the system and look into better carbon when he gets better. . I going to hate not running it bc I like the clarity of my water. I also just bought a brand new jug of c arbon :doh: Also, I'm going to rinse the carbon more thouroghly. Thanks again!

 

[Jaycen B.]

The carbon will not cause HILLE if it is rinsed well. I have been using carbon non stop for 2.56 years on my tank with four tangs and never had any issues with it. I too have read all those reports that say carbon may be a cause, but I am not convinced.

 

[bdooley]

I think it's more of using to much carbon than carbon all together.

 

[rdnelson]

Jaycen B.;783722 wrote: The carbon will not cause HILLE if it is rinsed well. I have been using carbon non stop for 2.56 years on my tank with four tangs and never had any issues with it. I too have read all those reports that say carbon may be a cause, but I am not convinced.

Could you be a little more specific. I mean, was it 2.56 years or could have been 2.57 years? :lol2:

 

[grouper therapy]

rdnelson99;783726 wrote: Could you be a little more specific. I mean, was it 2.56 years or could have been 2.57 years? :lol2:

Doesn't matter no way an electrician could calculate either one.

 

[Jaycen B.]

Bdooley;783725 wrote: I think it's more of using to much carbon than carbon all together.

Nope, PACK your carbon reactor so it does not tumble and break apart= no carbon fines.

Haha, about to be 2.57

 

[jennm]

If it's just pitting on the head, it can be fully reversed. The orphans I have are usually too far gone to heal up by the time they come to me. They heal but they're scarred.

Carbon fines is the most recent theory - there are others too - there was a study published not too long ago on the carbon idea. I can't say there's no merit to that - there is. I just don't think it's the sole cause.

Some tangs get it, others don't - even in the same tank, in my observations.

I'd check the water quality, I'd check for voltage (even if these aren't proven causes - they are cause for concern for the well-being of the tank anyway).

Marineland carbon isn't the best... we use Seachem Matrix Carbon - or you can use another high-quality brand of carbon. Lignite carbon seems to be one of the culprits: http://www.coralmagazine-us.com/content/activated-carbon-hlle-smoking-gun-found">http://www.coralmagazine-us.com/content/activated-carbon-hlle-smoking-gun-found</a>

Jenn

 

[rdnelson]

Jaycen B.;783731 wrote: Nope, PACK your carbon reactor so it does not tumble and break apart= no carbon fines.

That is contrary to what BRS says in it's video and what I have heard from others. I thought it was supposed to be able to tumble in the reactor? Anyone else have an opinion? What you are saying makes some sense but I would like to see what others think too.

Edit:

grouper therapy;783728 wrote: Doesn't matter no way an electrician could calculate either one.

That is because it doesn't matter if it is 480 volts or 481 volts. It still hurts like ****. LOL

 

[Jaycen B.]

Rich, you know what they say, YMMV.

 

[jennm]

Tumbling carbon anywhere: bad. The pieces grind together and pulverize.

No bueno.

Ditto with Phosguard ... you don't want it grinding together and pulverizing.

Jenn

 

[Jaycen B.]

Your ro carbon block is packed right?