I took this from Reef Central (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1208929&goto=newpost">http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1208929&goto=newpost</a>)
All credit should go to Steve Lowes - he did a good report from some of the talks - I thought people might enjoy it.
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">MACNA 2007 Trip Report - Steve Lowes</span></span>
[B]<u><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Mike Palleta – Pharmaceuticals and Marine Aquaria</span></span></u>[/B]
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Pharma industry experience – Genentech, with an oncology background.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Presented a good review on use of pharmaceuticals in the aquarium. Highlights:</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Levimasole hydrochloride – pig/cow dewormer, available from Agway and other farm suppliers</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Flat worm killer</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Eggs of FW are not addressed</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Needs multiple dips</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Concentration and details of dip not mentioned</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Described training new wrasses (six line, banana, and fairy wrasses) in a in-tank-corral to eat FW before release into main tank</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Metranidazole – dewormer</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Often new fish carry worms into the aquarium- many fish eat feces of others</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Reported recent improved success with Leopard Wrasse and Moorish Idols after de-worming </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Apply through treated food – no further details</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Reported improvement for lateral line disease?</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Interceptor – red bug treatment</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">No new info but confirmed success of this treatment</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Usual caveats</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Maracin/Erythromycin</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">red slime treatment – surprising (to me) recommended this to “hit†red slime outbreaks and then let less nuisance algae dominate.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Narrow spectrum gram-positive bactericide, most sand bed bacteria gram-negative</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Recommended 2 treatments – didn’t get other details</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Chloramphenicol</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">RTN treatment (supposedly)</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Antimicrobial / Antibiotic</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Didn’t get any details of treatment</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Better advice was to drop temp to 74F for a few weeks</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Garlic</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Referenced E. Borneman Sep 07 “Reef Keeping Magazine†article on addressing Montipora eating nudibranchs</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Then we got into the quasi-pharma topics</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Vodka</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Carbon source for bacteria promotion – with subsequent draw down on nitrogen and phosphate</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Described home built vodka reactor with warning of consequences of overdosing.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Noted danger of this technique</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Work up slowly over weeks/months if you are going to try this</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Mike has reached an optimum dose for his system of 30 ml vodka going into a 1200g system over 3 days</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Human growth hormone (HGH) / Amino acid (AA) dosing</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Idea is to promote fast growth</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Question why you want to do this in a typical display tank – aquaculture possibilities</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">AA’s make some sense (theoretically) but HGH seems far fetched. Only thought is that HGH may be broken down (enymatically) into some useful amino acids</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Pappone Recipe / Blue Coral Method – Italian website</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Courier New;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">o</span> </span>[IMG]http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8791724"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8791724</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Courier New;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">o</span> </span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Dose AA’s 2 hrs before rest of feeding (after lights out)</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Feed 10 mL/100gallon after acclimation to feeding</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Recommended the Elos brand of AA’s</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Finished with a quick review of pharmaceutical from the sea - for human use.</span></span>
[B]<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Stan Dannemiller – Do Fish Feel Pain?</span></span>[/B]
<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Cleveland Clinic Foundation – Veterinary background</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Interesting presentation that concluded that we don’t really know but if they do then it’s probably not as we know pain. Presentation spurred by some recent reports that fish do feel pain. Data is really lacking to conclude this!</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Evidence for: Opiates have a behavioral effect on applied “pain†– i.e. subdues pain results (increased breathing, hypoactivity, decreased feeding, rubbing of affected site, rocking behavior – and some blood chemistry) when trout were injected with bee venom.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Evidence against: Essentially no neocortal (cerebral neocortex) area in a fish brain. This is the area of a human brain that is associated with emotional state and hence what we associate with “painâ€.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Good discussion on the differences in Teleost (typical fish) vs Elasmobranch (sharks/rays) nerve and brain structures. </span></span>
<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Introduced MS222- anesthetic vs clove oil </span></span>
[B]<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Scott Fellman – Advanced Aquascaping</span></span>[/B]
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Scott stepped in for Sara Lardizabal who was not able to attend.</span></span>
[IMG]mailto:algaeguy01@socal.rr.com"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">algaeguy01@socal.rr.com</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Brief overview of aquascaping trends and the move away from the wall of rocks with as many species of corals as possible perched in there in a completely unnatural display.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">1 to 1.618 focal point – (also see “rule of thirdsâ€). Easy way is to take length of display and divide by 2.618. This gives you the optimum focal point of the display – use this in aquascaping design.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Current trend is to emulate nature. See following site for idea:</span></span>
[IMG]http://invincible569.squarespace.com/"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">http://invincible569.squarespace.com/</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Biotope aquaria and in particular the seagrass aquaria:</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">shoal grass (Halodule wrightii) easiest</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">star grass (Halophila) not easiest</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">turtle grass (Thalassia hemphricii</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">need 4-6†established sand bed</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">consider enriched substrates (mud, boiled potting soil)</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">care not to damage rhizome on planting</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">plant as you would a terrestrial plant by digging a whole and being careful with roots</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">prune leaves</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">use herbivores to graze algae – i.e. snails</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">be patient – leaves drop 1st then get new growth</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">sources of sea grasses:</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> </span>[IMG]http://floridapets.tripod.com/marineplants.html"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">http://floridapets.tripod.com/marineplants.html</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> </span>[IMG]http://www.live-plants.com/"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">http://www.live-plants.com</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"></span></span>
All credit should go to Steve Lowes - he did a good report from some of the talks - I thought people might enjoy it.
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">MACNA 2007 Trip Report - Steve Lowes</span></span>
[B]<u><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Mike Palleta – Pharmaceuticals and Marine Aquaria</span></span></u>[/B]
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Pharma industry experience – Genentech, with an oncology background.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Presented a good review on use of pharmaceuticals in the aquarium. Highlights:</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Levimasole hydrochloride – pig/cow dewormer, available from Agway and other farm suppliers</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Flat worm killer</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Eggs of FW are not addressed</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Needs multiple dips</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Concentration and details of dip not mentioned</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Described training new wrasses (six line, banana, and fairy wrasses) in a in-tank-corral to eat FW before release into main tank</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Metranidazole – dewormer</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Often new fish carry worms into the aquarium- many fish eat feces of others</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Reported recent improved success with Leopard Wrasse and Moorish Idols after de-worming </span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Apply through treated food – no further details</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Reported improvement for lateral line disease?</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Interceptor – red bug treatment</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">No new info but confirmed success of this treatment</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Usual caveats</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Maracin/Erythromycin</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">red slime treatment – surprising (to me) recommended this to “hit†red slime outbreaks and then let less nuisance algae dominate.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Narrow spectrum gram-positive bactericide, most sand bed bacteria gram-negative</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Recommended 2 treatments – didn’t get other details</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Chloramphenicol</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">RTN treatment (supposedly)</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Antimicrobial / Antibiotic</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Didn’t get any details of treatment</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Better advice was to drop temp to 74F for a few weeks</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Garlic</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Referenced E. Borneman Sep 07 “Reef Keeping Magazine†article on addressing Montipora eating nudibranchs</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Then we got into the quasi-pharma topics</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Vodka</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Carbon source for bacteria promotion – with subsequent draw down on nitrogen and phosphate</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Described home built vodka reactor with warning of consequences of overdosing.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Noted danger of this technique</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Work up slowly over weeks/months if you are going to try this</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Mike has reached an optimum dose for his system of 30 ml vodka going into a 1200g system over 3 days</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Human growth hormone (HGH) / Amino acid (AA) dosing</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Idea is to promote fast growth</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Question why you want to do this in a typical display tank – aquaculture possibilities</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">AA’s make some sense (theoretically) but HGH seems far fetched. Only thought is that HGH may be broken down (enymatically) into some useful amino acids</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Pappone Recipe / Blue Coral Method – Italian website</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Courier New;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">o</span> </span>[IMG]http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8791724"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8791724</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Courier New;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">o</span> </span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Dose AA’s 2 hrs before rest of feeding (after lights out)</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Feed 10 mL/100gallon after acclimation to feeding</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">Recommended the Elos brand of AA’s</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Finished with a quick review of pharmaceutical from the sea - for human use.</span></span>
[B]<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Stan Dannemiller – Do Fish Feel Pain?</span></span>[/B]
<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Cleveland Clinic Foundation – Veterinary background</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Interesting presentation that concluded that we don’t really know but if they do then it’s probably not as we know pain. Presentation spurred by some recent reports that fish do feel pain. Data is really lacking to conclude this!</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Evidence for: Opiates have a behavioral effect on applied “pain†– i.e. subdues pain results (increased breathing, hypoactivity, decreased feeding, rubbing of affected site, rocking behavior – and some blood chemistry) when trout were injected with bee venom.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Evidence against: Essentially no neocortal (cerebral neocortex) area in a fish brain. This is the area of a human brain that is associated with emotional state and hence what we associate with “painâ€.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Good discussion on the differences in Teleost (typical fish) vs Elasmobranch (sharks/rays) nerve and brain structures. </span></span>
<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Introduced MS222- anesthetic vs clove oil </span></span>
[B]<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">Scott Fellman – Advanced Aquascaping</span></span>[/B]
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Scott stepped in for Sara Lardizabal who was not able to attend.</span></span>
[IMG]mailto:algaeguy01@socal.rr.com"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">algaeguy01@socal.rr.com</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Brief overview of aquascaping trends and the move away from the wall of rocks with as many species of corals as possible perched in there in a completely unnatural display.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">1 to 1.618 focal point – (also see “rule of thirdsâ€). Easy way is to take length of display and divide by 2.618. This gives you the optimum focal point of the display – use this in aquascaping design.</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Current trend is to emulate nature. See following site for idea:</span></span>
[IMG]http://invincible569.squarespace.com/"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">http://invincible569.squarespace.com/</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Biotope aquaria and in particular the seagrass aquaria:</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">shoal grass (Halodule wrightii) easiest</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">star grass (Halophila) not easiest</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">turtle grass (Thalassia hemphricii</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">need 4-6†established sand bed</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">consider enriched substrates (mud, boiled potting soil)</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">care not to damage rhizome on planting</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">plant as you would a terrestrial plant by digging a whole and being careful with roots</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">prune leaves</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">use herbivores to graze algae – i.e. snails</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">be patient – leaves drop 1st then get new growth</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> <span style="font-size: 13px;">sources of sea grasses:</span></span>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> </span>[IMG]http://floridapets.tripod.com/marineplants.html"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">http://floridapets.tripod.com/marineplants.html</span></span></span></a>
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">-</span> </span>[IMG]http://www.live-plants.com/"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">http://www.live-plants.com</span></span></span></a>
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