New Reef tank

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I am wanting to start a reef and already have a saltwater fish tank and I'm not really sure where to start


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Skimmer,live rock, lights matrix, money tree and lots of time oh and a second money tree because the first will be picked dry just my to cents
 
Welcome to ARC. If I understand correctly, you have a running saltwater tank with fish in it already, and you want to add some corals. Why don't you give us an overview of what you have, so we can understand what you need?

If you just have the tank, but it's not set up, then I'd highly recommend doing some research. I liked the book "The New Marine Aquarium" by Michael Paletta when I was first getting started.

Good luck!
 
I have fish already in my tank it is 100gallons with a wet/dry filter and I have a protein skimmer on the way.. I'm just not see what I would need to make it into a reef tank?


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PBennett657;905136 wrote: I have fish already in my tank it is 100gallons with a wet/dry filter and I have a protein skimmer on the way.. I'm just not see what I would need to make it into a reef tank?


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Does your wet/dry have space for a skimmer? What lighting do you have? How much flow do you have in the tank?
 
What kind of corals are you planning on keeping,? This dictates a lot as far as lighting, filtration, dosing, etc. will go. Also, what kind of fish are you currently keeping? Some fish that are friendly towards other fish may not be so cordial to your corals. anyways, welcome and good luck!
 
I'm new to this as well. PBennett is a good friend of mine. I've seen his tank. It's a very well kept fish only tank. He has heard mixed things of what he needs or doesn't need to do. Like with LR, if he can get it all at once, can he add it all at once or does he need to do it piece by piece? Does he need to get a refugium? What type of lighting would be best? Since it's not up and running yet, he can get everything he needs now, so he doesn't have to worry about upgrading later on.

I have no room to suggest anything, because, I am still learning day by day. I hope everyone can help him as you all have helped me and still continue to help me!
 
I would say if u have some place for the fish I would take them out and then add all live rock at one time.if u don't have any place for fish I would do little by little and have prime on hand because tank will cycle every time u add rock to it things r going to die on the rock nothing u can do for that just shipping and handling.u will need a sump and good skimmer lights depending on what kind of Corals spa t5 or mh most others with less will be fine its still is up in the air about sps with leds some have good luck some don't.
 
I 2nd the opinion of getting a good book and reading your tail off. There is a lot to know so you don't throw away a lot of money. Get your base knowledge and go from there.
 
Thanks everyone I will be getting the book and I don't know what kind of coral I want yet I been going to fish stores in the towns I travel to for work and looking and have been seeing reef tanks and I have taking a liking to them...


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Welcome !! I would say the above is good advice , read as much as you can about every step you take.
Also I would invest in a good reverse osmosis de ionizing water filter because you will be making a lot of water.
Also the proper reef test kits and familiarize yourself with these test kits because they are how you will know when your ready for coral and how you will regulate your reefs needs.
Good luck making the jump It's a lot of information to absorb at first but It's hands down the most rewarding and addictive hobbies to pick up , but the community is very helpful and knowledgeable , so ask questions if you dont know or understand something.
I'm excited for you take pictures along the way for us.
 
You don't have to add live rock to your system if you already have a wet/dry filter. You can add dry rock, and the bacteria will colonize it eventually. Depending on the dry rock, you'll still want to cure it to remove whatever dead organic matter is still hanging on it.
 
It's a tradeoff. Dry rock won't have unwanted hitchhikers, but it takes longer to become live. Live rock could have hitchhikers, depending on the source. Some hitchhikers are pretty cool (sponges), some can be a real nuisance (mantis shrimp), and some pests can be challenging to remove (aiptasia or bryopsis). And live rock that was shipped will have some die-off that you need to handle before adding it to your tank (manual removal and curing).

You've already got a working biological filter in your wet-dry, or your fish would be dead. Using live rock (even if it started as dry) provides a way to process Nitrates, which the wet/dry doesn't. It's not the only way, but things like growing macroalgae in a refugium, running GFO, and your basic water change are all intended to remove nutrients from your system. There are other approaches, but the idea is to keep nutrients lower for some species of coral. Some corals aren't as sensitive to high nutrients (which a well-fed fish-only system is likely to be).

Also, +1 on the RO/DI filter. It helps because you're not putting the nutrients into the tank in the first place.

There's no single answer to running a reef tank. Lots of different approaches work. You should research it, and decide what fits in your budget, time, and interest. I think it's part of the fun!
 
Thanks sounds like I have a lot of reading to do!! Thanks for all the info you all have been a big help!


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djatl;905725 wrote: It's a tradeoff. Dry rock won't have unwanted hitchhikers, but it takes longer to become live. Live rock could have hitchhikers, depending on the source. Some hitchhikers are pretty cool (sponges), some can be a real nuisance (mantis shrimp), and some pests can be challenging to remove (aiptasia or bryopsis). And live rock that was shipped will have some die-off that you need to handle before adding it to your tank (manual removal and curing).

You've already got a working biological filter in your wet-dry, or your fish would be dead. Using live rock (even if it started as dry) provides a way to process Nitrates, which the wet/dry doesn't. It's not the only way, but things like growing macroalgae in a refugium, running GFO, and your basic water change are all intended to remove nutrients from your system. There are other approaches, but the idea is to keep nutrients lower for some species of coral. Some corals aren't as sensitive to high nutrients (which a well-fed fish-only system is likely to be).

Also, +1 on the RO/DI filter. It helps because you're not putting the nutrients into the tank in the first place.

There's no single answer to running a reef tank. Lots of different approaches work. You should research it, and decide what fits in your budget, time, and interest. I think it's part of the fun!


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It is soooo easy to start a bio-system these days that I would use nice dry rock and I would treat all the rock with H2O2 before it hit my system, imho.
 
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