Overdosed Kalk ... >.< Things died.

[miami dolfan]

Please tell me the Powder Blue made it.........

 

[hackman72]

Thanh, do you have a livestock update?

 

[dakota9]

Skriz;426515 wrote:
Occum's razor: the simplest solution is most often the most correct.

We often try to over complicate things in this hobby. I'd be willing to bet that most issues are due to this overcomplication. You'd be surprised what water changs alone can accomplish.

No truer words have ever been written regarding this hobby.

 

[skriz]

grouper therapy;426761 wrote: The same safeguard you put on an auto top off can be applied to a constant drip kalk addition <u>same controller ,same solenoid</u></em> are used except you take out the possibility of pumping large amounts of kalk in at once since everything is designed to drip at a very slow rate ,another safeguard. The main concern is usually the high end needle valve closing up and slowing the drip after six months of not cleaning, another built in safeguard (not planned). I use two needle valves for redundancy. This method is safer in my opinion since a pump and switches are taking out of the equation and gravity is used which is much more reliable than the aforementioned .
I cannot elaborate on the adjustable top off system I use since I am investigating applying for a patent but the reason it supplies 3 gallons at a time is the quality of the water is a little better since my rodi unit doesn't cycle as often . The top off unit only activates about every 3 days. so there is even less chance of over dosing with fresh water (another safeguard). I did set the drip rate based on the summer months evaporation rate so the winter months do allow for more top off activity. The 3 gallon addition of freshwater in my 300 gallon system doesn't change the salinity in a detectable amount.I believe this method is more stable since it is not effected by the evaporation rate that changes during the year on most tanks. The kalk addition is the same through out the year as with a ato it changes with the evaporation rate.
I will not make a blanket statement and say this the best and most stable method but it has worked for three years now flawlessly.

Hey, you found the bold feature..thanks, I was looking for that!

grouper therapy;426761 wrote: The same safeguard you put on an auto top off can be applied to a constant drip kalk addition <u>same controller ,same solenoid</u></em> are used...

Not exactly. On an ato system, the controller will turn off the pump. The drip system has no pump to turn off. So, you'd have to add said solonoid inline that opens and closes stopping the effluent.

grouper therapy;426761 wrote: ..The main concern is usually the high end needle valve closing up and slowing the drip after six months of not cleaning, another built in safeguard (not planned). I use two needle valves for redundancy. This method is safer in my opinion since a pump and switches are taking out of the equation and gravity is used which is much more reliable than the aforementioned...

:lol2:Love this "Safegaurd"!

How are 2 needle valves offering a safegaurd? It's redundant, sure, but I fail to see how they're a safegaurd. Are you suggesting that a needle valve will fail open? It would seem more likely that this would actually increase maintenance on the system as you now have two things you have to keep clean in order for kalkwasser to continue to flow. (I'm assuming it would fail closed).

I understand your 3g per shot now. I have a similar system where my ATO container is rather small, limiting how much water can be topped-off in a given 24 hour period. The RODI unit will only be engaged during certain hours of the day also, ensuring that I can't fresh water my tank. All of this is before my kalk though.

 

[skriz]

grouper therapy;426974 wrote: Sounds like some ancient Latin speaking person could not grasp anything beyond 1+1.

Or maybe they grasped much more than we can imaged.

Euclid says 1+1=2, however it's a fact that sometimes 1+1=1

 

[grouper therapy]

Skriz;427155 wrote: Hey, you found the bold feature..thanks, I was looking for that!




Not exactly. On an ato system, the controller will turn off the pump. The drip system has no pump to turn off. So, you'd have to add said solonoid inline that opens and closes stopping the effluent.



:lol2:Love this "Safegaurd"!

How are 2 needle valves offering a safegaurd? It's redundant, sure, but I fail to see how they're a safegaurd. Are you suggesting that a needle valve will fail open? It would seem more likely that this would actually increase maintenance on the system as you now have two things you have to keep clean in order for kalkwasser to continue to flow. (I'm assuming it would fail closed).

I understand your 3g per shot now. I have a similar system where my ATO container is rather small, limiting how much water can be topped-off in a given 24 hour period. The RODI unit will only be engaged during certain hours of the day also, ensuring that I can't fresh water my tank. All of this is before my kalk though.

I actually run one needle valve that is attached to a 50 gallon tank that mixes kalkwasser once a day for about 2 minutes. It drips 24/7 and has done so for three years flawlessly. All the other stuff ,safeguards and redundancy is for all non bold feature using paranoid high tech kalk reactor salesmen to respond to and ponder over. It is just too simple for some to understand. Sorry for the above but I could not help myself with the lame attempt of sarcasm . I hope the 1+1=1 works out for you. I wished you guys would set up your pricing structure based on that concept.

 

[grouper therapy]

Sorry for the hijack and for your troubles Thanh .I tried to delete but waited too long. I will start another thread instead.

 

[thanh386]

How did u jack my thread lol. I posted this for advice lol. Post away!