misu;574013 wrote: hard to tell, cheaper looks like normal marco rock and has exactly the same price for 50#
JeF4y;574021 wrote: Sounds like the Pukani may be the way to go.
As for your cycling question, again, it all depends on how much you do at once. You have a 210 gallon (IIRC) tank with a few hundred poounds of liverock. If you put 10# of dry rock in, it's not likely going to do anything. However, if you pull OUT 50# and put 50# IN, then you may experience something in the line of a cycle. It's all about the bioload you currently have and how well the tank can adjust. Many factors... Go slow and learn as you go.
SnowManSnow;574050 wrote: hey man i saw the picture. I dont think you have a bad setup really. It looks a LOT like mine did haha. the thing is you've got to plan ahead and let your corals grow your reef structure. ... i could see caps around the bottom of those mounds, some big SPS growing off the sides and bridging the gap between the 2.
IMO. Create a very OPEN structure .. get you some nice frags glue them on the rock and let it grow in over a year.
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Acroholic;574079 wrote: The BRS Pukani product description does not state if this is just dried live rock or cured dried live rock. The BRS Eco Rox is the same stuff as the Marco Key Largo, and it is quarried, so it will not induce a cycle because it has no organics on/in it. Just needs a rinse in tap water to remove any dust. A call to BRS to ask about the Pukani will tell you if it is uncured. I'd look for a cycle on the Pukani if it is just dried rock that has been pulled from the reef then dried out and sold.
bratliff;574066 wrote: Not to sound argumentative here, but, I'm confused as to why the prevailing opinion is that adding base rock would cause a cycle? A cycle is caused by organic material decomposing. The Marco rock I used in setting up my 180 was 100% "cycled" in that there was no organic material to die off. I understand not wanting to remove all the live rock (or a large portion of it) as this would reduce the ability of the tank system to process nitrates, but, that's not a cycle, it's a bio-load issue.
I think you'll be fine with this. I put all of my cured live rock into my fuge and sump and used only base rock in my display as I want to customize the look and didn't wanna kill off my live rock. I stuff yer fuge with as much of your rock as it can hold and go ahead and reaquascape your display with the BRS rock. FWIW, when I first had my tank cycling, the marco rock had no testable impact on tank parameters (at least with the test kits I was using). This was with about 300 gallons of water, no live sand or rock, and about 200 lbs of Marco rock in the display.
Eric B;574090 wrote: Gary,
If you want to drill it and attach it together I bought some fiberglass rod from Mcmaster Carr in 1/2" diameter and have all the drills and hydrolic cement which is the same stuff Sanjay used to assemble his rocks in his tank and that I am going to use on my Fiji rock. Just give me a call you have my number and more than willing to give you a hand. I would still place in a tote for a while and slowly add pieces just to be safe.
gnashty;574081 wrote: Of the 27 online reveiws of the pukani (all excellent) a couple mentioned a good bit of dried organic matter on the rock. one noted it took several weeks of cycling and skimming before he was able to add to the DT.
Acroholic;574109 wrote: OK, then that shows you the Pukani comes from the ocean, whereas the Eco Rox/Marco key largo is quarried.
gnashty;574052 wrote: I have about 100-150 frags and about 50-60 other corals.
bratliff;574314 wrote: I assume you are referring to curing the new rock so, the answer is no. There's no need to seed. Let the cycle commence and take it's course. Skim it and do water changes and otherwise just pretend you're setting up a new tank (heaters, PH's etc.)
gnashty;574315 wrote: This was my plan - I planned to use my discard water from a WC to fill the bin I will put the rock in....good idea/bad idea? then using fresh saltwater for WC's of the bin from there on out..
Eric B;574318 wrote: That water should do fine instead of tossing it for fresh water why not recycle it at all water changes!![]()
brianjfinn;574320 wrote: Gary, why don't you seed the new rock in your tank? Just add a few pieces at a time and let it sit for a couple weeks, then take out a few pieces of the stuff you don't like and add some more new pieces. It might take a while, but I think it would be the most stable route. Also, try PMing Chris at Fish Scales, he's great with aquascaping.