Salinity swings due to limpets

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I’m at my wits end here. I woke up to the ATO on my 40b going off once again because the in-water sensor was covered by limpets. This is happening almost once a week now and can’t be good for the inhabitants. Is there something I can put around the sensor to keep these little assholes from triggering it non-stop overnight or while I away from home? A 3D printed cage or something?

The water level is ~1.5” over where it’s supposed to be, and I’m down about a gallon of RODI water from the 5g jug it pulls from that was changed out yesterday.
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This picture actually shows the culprits, making their way over to block it again eventually
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Yep, that's an optical sensor and from doing some searches it sounds like it's a common problem (although all the mentions of it I see are issues with big snails like Turbos).

This sounds like the best solution unless there is some way you can screen that section so that they can't get in there in the first place:

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This picture actually shows the culprits, making their way over to block it again eventually
I have the same sensor for my MagTool ATO. I could try to design and print a guard for it before the event Sunday...

But, you may need to poke me and remind me on Friday or Saturday. I've got spring planting I need to get done these next couple of days so I'm liable to be distracted and worn-out.
 
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Yep, that's an optical sensor and from doing some searches it sounds like it's a common problem (although all the mentions of it I see are issues with big snails like Turbos).

This sounds like the best solution unless there is some way you can screen that section so that they can't get in there in the first place:

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For the record, do not resin print anything for a fish tank, especially not a reef tank!

Whoever wrote that recommendation... should not be writing recommendations on this particular subject. Aside from maybe specialized medically-certified dental (or "bio-compatible") resins intended for human use - which most hobbyist resin printers can't cure anyway - there are/were no other types of resins that are even remotely reef-safe. In fact from what I can find there are virtually no peer-reviewed studies on the subject of medical resins in marine environments at all, and of the few there are, they're focused on acute toxicity, and not long-term use. Any "safety" is only assumed because it's theoretically safe for human use. Even then there aren't even any true long-term safety studies on any of those because they only started being used in the 2010's. In fact, while many of the "bio-compatible" resins pass initial safety tests, there are studies showing that factors like aging and physical/chemical stress in the oral environment can lead to the release of monomers over time: and those studied time frames are usually 2 years at the maximum.

Those resins are also WAY more expensive than regular resins.

Caveat: some/most standard resins can theoretically be made reef-safe if you cure the ever-loving daylight out of it, and then do a thorough job of coating the part in a marine-safe epoxy... but ain't nobody got time for that!! 30 - 90 minutes worth of pre- and post-processing time for each printing run, and then you have to epoxy it, and in a way that won't look terrible? Hard pass. Resin's primary benefit is high level of detail and dimensional accuracy... and you lose all the dimensional accuracy the instant you epoxy-coat it. Plus, the part will now be hard, which means you've reduced it's toughness - not always ideal, depending on the application.

As it stands, PETG is the gold standard of reef-safe materials, especially if it's black or undyed - there's no telling what chemical was used in some of those dyes. ABS, ASA and certiain PP filaments are also generally considered safe, with the same conditions about dyes and colors. PCTG is also supposed to be the tougher relative of PETG and from what I read is understood to be safe in the long-term. Nylon is theoretically safe, but absorbs water and will swell over time. Polycarbonate is also theoretically safe and used by some people, but presents a risk of leaching BPA into the water - it's also a bit of a pain to print.

@Hunna I finished a first prototype. It would likely work just fine, but I wanted to improve the fit a little better, and I was assuming your limpets would be bigger than the 2mm holes I used on the sides... but looking again at your picture, I don't think I can safely make that assumption so I need to make some tweaks, I think. Like maybe removing the holes around the perimeter altogether and increasing the infill density.

For some reason I'd been thinking the event was Sunday, not Sat., so... glad I got started last night 😅

Suggestion in the meantime: mark the side of the tank there a little more permanently with your normal high- and low-level lines, because with the cover over it, you won't be able to see the sensor itself.

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My biggest concern is that the holes might be too small to allow a proper reading of the water level. I’ll gladly test out whatever you think of and let you know how it works. My ATO on that tank has been unplugged for 2 days now and still waiting for the level to come back down to where it’s supposed to be.
 
No worries, I got you there. The "top" or open end is actually just what we call "infill", and is barely more than a mesh - what it will (should) wind up doing is actually steadying the surface of the water inside the cover itself. I'm about to start v2 printing here shortly, I'll bring both and you can see which you prefer.
 
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