Rbredding;577775 wrote: yes.. it's been shrinking (on average) ever since the last ice age...
Dakota9;577777 wrote: That statement is not true.
rolo65;577786 wrote: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/the_sky_is_falling_or_revising_the_nine_times_rule/">http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/the_sky_is_falling_or_revising_the_nine_times_rule/</a>
You have to click the links within the article....it is very long and complex....and there is a very good chance you won't comprehend it the first time....not in a mean way....but in a it's freakin confusing way....[/QUOTE]
The author/geologist is arguing the same basic principle I was stating (but of course, he uses facts, science, history, data, etc..)
bottom line.. man is the proverbial gnat in the face of the global climate machine..
Rbredding;580050 wrote: bottom line.. man is the proverbial gnat in the face of the global climate machine..
Frantz;591626 wrote: <span style="font-size: 13px"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">Interesting thoughts. I considered all this in the past few months while researching for my first tank. I realize we can not change where our personal lives fall in the history of technology and technique for rearing such wildlife, however, we can (and to the best of our intensions do) practice at the peak of our abilities. I feel our hobby is at or near a turning point where many threatened species could be preserved in public and private aquaculture, and I ask the question, could any of these be saved if not for the trial and error of generations past? It’s far too complex for me to understand if the overall has been good or bad to this point, but I feel we have very positive potential in the future, and that is the part of the industry which we can yet change.</span></span>
Dakota9;577608 wrote: I'm good with that!
Let's adopt a Reef!
mojo;591870 wrote: I'm hoping to do something like that with the club in 2011. The devil is in the details, of course, but I want to see us get more involved with conservation and the reefs outside our tanks, and this is one way of doing exactly that.
I don't really know how to respond to the rest of your post, but where on this site has anyone been "punished" for selling aquacultured corals? Technically, every "frag" sold is aquacultured....RaisedOnNintendo;591978 wrote: We need to cut back on punishing folks for selling aquacultured corals here first off and encourage it
RaisedOnNintendo;591978 wrote: Well point being I bet if all arc members n users where to buy aquacultured corals we would impact .5% maby even 1% of the global market for corals. Face it the Atlanta market is a huge base of consumption of the reef. Sure California and Florida are probably the biggest 2. But who do you really thinks next? If we just all came together here in Georgia here on arc we could change the world. We need to cut back on punishing folks for selling aquacultured corals here first off and encourage it. I'd be willing to help set up a page here on arc. We could call it aquacultured yard sale or something. Where we ask you post a pic of a mother colony let's say 2 months in advance before you can sell that frag. N your not allowed to sell the colony on that page. So folks know these are being grown out. Maby allow 1 post a month on here so we can keep the bAd folk from trying to make a business out of it. But as it is now alot of folks don't post there aquacultured items because our current heavy hand on commercial sales. Not that I'm condoning it. Just like in my case I've been warned already 1 time for comercial sales and I don't believe I have ever posted in the forsale thread. So I don't feel comfortable fragging out my aquacultured items here n help to save our reefs. Shoot n I know I have at least 50 different kinds of Zoas alone I could frag. Maby you could even make it a 500$ limit a year or something.
:confused2::confused2:mysterybox;592062 wrote: wth are you saying?
MvM;592060 wrote: I don't really know how to respond to the rest of your post, but where on this site has anyone been "punished" for selling aquacultured corals? Technically, every "frag" sold is aquacultured....
RaisedOnNintendo;592082 wrote: We could save the reef here now. That I bet Georgia buys out 1/2 a percent of the total reef that get destroyed. If we stoped buying anything but aquaculture corals we could make a huge impact. But currently doing so here is near impossible. Comprenda