Who has given up Aquavitro Salinity? WHY?

Thank you to everyone for your comments. I hope you all understand that we, by no means, downplay the seriousness of any reported issues with our products. Being a company who believes that true science is necessary for this hobby to grow and thrive, it is very frustrating for us to see that some folks are having negative experiences while using salinity and we seemingly cannot give you an answer as to why in some of these cases.

Being that all of you are hobbyists, I don't expect that I need to go into detail regarding how truly unpredictable and oftentimes downright difficult keeping an ocean in a box can be. I trust that you can all relate to varying degrees through your own experiences.

Here is what I can tell you for certain:

1) We use quality anhydrous ingredients in our salinity salt
2) We mix every single batch here in our facility
3) After being mixed, every batch has a sample pulled from it for testing in our lab prior to dispensing it into buckets.
4) Once those initial tests are run and it is cleared based on the results, we then dispense it into buckets.
5) The buckets then sit on the manufacturing floor until we receive verification of the parameters from an outside source.
6) A sample is overnighted to an independent chemical analysis lab where it is tested using equipment that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.
7) Once the results from the lab are received and checked, we then print the labels including the results and the salt is released for shipment.
8) There is no other manufacturer in this industry putting this much effort and time into producing a synthetic salt.

This may or may not do much for instilling your confidence in salinity salt. I am very aware that as the manufacturer of the product, some of you may be wary of trusting that our best interest lies in providing you with the highest quality salt we know how to make. For this reason specifically, we decided to use an independent lab instead of our own.

Nonetheless, due the fragile nature of reef-keeping, something may very well go wrong with an aquarium upon making a switch in salts. Whether or not it is directly or indirectly related to the switch, I can tell you confidently that it is not something that is evident to us through the analytical processes we are employing when producing this salt.

With all of this said, we would very much appreciate it if anyone who has had a negative experience and has not already contacted us directly would do so. Esepecially the ones who have reported a crashed tank. Maybe we can isolate a common denominator.

Thanks again to everyone for your input.
 
I appreciate (as many) your replies and candor in this thread! Thank you!

I love Salinity! lol...:)
 
Yes thank you Seachem very informative, from our first complaint with the residue I took your advice and ridded myself of the problem. I had no idea that a company would stand behind their product like you guys. Very impressive and admirable for you to answer all these questions in this thread and supply the inside info on how the levels are checked. I for one appreciate it and I'm sure others do as well. Way to go and I will continue to patronize your company and products.
 
FWIW, I have personally used Salinity, SeaChem Reef Salt, Instant Ocean, Reef Crystals, D&D (Deltec), and Korallin Zucht Salt mixes, and they all leave some type of residue in the mixing container, regardless of brand.
 
The grey particles you are seeing are comprised mostly of sulfates that have not gone into solution. This is not uncommon as sulfates can be difficult to dissolve when ionic concentrations are near their saturation points according to the existing chemical components of the water. As we have mentioned previously in the thread, water temperature and existing CO2 concentrations, can play a major role in this. If they are high, less of the sulfates will be dissolved and you will see more residue. That said, such a small amount of residue should not cause any problems. As Acroholic has mentioned, it is not uncommon to see some type of residue using any brand of salt. It all depends on the minerals in the salt and the conditions at which it is mixed.
 
Did my 2nd WC last night with Salinity, sad to say I'm going back to Red Sea. I love every other product seachem produces but I have to many issues with this salt.
 
I have been using it for the past month or so, since I set up my 120g. I do have the cloudiness with it mixing and it never clears. It also seems like there is a higher than normal level of sediment left in the mixing tub. I have not decided whether I will continue with it or not but I can say that the cloudiness is a concern.
 
As seachem stated this can be reduced by using the mix sooner. But I think we as hobbiest need a salt mix that can be consistant if left for a day or a few days before use if that's even possible.[/QUOTE]

I agree here I like to always have 40gals ready to go, you never know what may happen and you need it right away. I have used Salinity and was a barrel buyer, all of my test never matched as the bucket stated and lower alk didn't bother me because I maintain dk of 7.6 using Zeovit but did want salt mix with a higher potassium level I now use Reefer Best Salt
 
This has been a very interesting thread as i have been experiencing issues with my tank and have been advised to try a diff mix. Its interesting to see so many different results for hobbyists using this salt and im excited to share my experience to support all of these differences.

Over the last 5-6 months I have used over 9 of the large buckets of salinity. yes expensive but I thought it was worth it. I noticed over these couple months that my 40 gallon rubbermaid bin has collected close to a 1/8" of white precipitation on parts of the bottom and sides and usually at the bottom of the mix there is always white residue/particulates left over. Im using a mag 12 to mix so this shouldn't be happening. I have also noticed that over this duration I have experienced mixes that come out crystal clear and also super milky. My place is constantly at 74 degrees so my mixing temp is consistent and i always dump the salt straight in. No slow mixing. I am consistent but the cloudiness in the water never is. I cant tell you what this exactly means but something is def not consistent... my reef practices are though.... The only user error on my part could be due to the salt not being stirred properly before adding to the water so the batch is inconsistent... I have also watched the salt mix from periods of hours to a full week to see if the cloudiness changed when it occurred and there was no change. Again sometimes it came out crystal clear within hours. too weird....
 
I jus rechecked my rubber maid mixing bin and let me retract the 1/8", its more like 1/16". I look forward to seeing this thread expand on this issue...
 
blakejohn;677639 wrote: I cannot comment on the salinity salt as I have not used it. But I regards to seachems statment about residues I have noticed that it seems when you use a salt mix with higher levels of MG, Ca, and Alk those salt seems to precipitate more thus leaving a residue or more of a residue. In addition this seems to lead to a need to dose more.

In my opinion most people switch salts because they have a high demand for these elements and want to reduce the dosing requirements and not usually because of a problem persay.

This said it doesn't seem practical to me to purchase a salt that promises higher concentrations only to have to dose those elements back in because they were lost during the mixing.

As seachem stated this can be reduced by using the mix sooner. But I think we as hobbiest need a salt mix that can be consistant if left for a day or a few days before use if that's even possible.



Well, that's not the case.....my numbers are spot on before and after water change, and I dose 2 part 6 times daily....heavy growth with sps & other stonies...

Edit: I cut 2 inches off my monti a week! When they picked it up today, it couldn't fit in a cooler...only a 34 gallon brute and it was tight....15 gallon of water to top it off...just saying..
 
I'm swithching if they don't fix that crap As handle on the bucket!!!! Can I get an AMEN!!!
 
mysterybox;677851 wrote: :eek:

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The 225 gallon Salinity buckets use a plastic handle that breaks a lot. Happened to me. I even emailed them about it over a year ago.
 
mysterybox;677851 wrote: :eek:

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REally Ralph the plastic handle has never snapped with you while your carrying the bucket? Your the only person I know then. There should be a disclaimer on that thing.

Edit: I was at a LFS Sunday, and was warned about the handle snapping for like the 4th time. The lfs said they actually had a guy get some toes broken when the bucket fell on his feet after it snapped. The very first time I bought a bucket I was carrying it to the truck and it snapped, it didnt get me or anything but that large bucket is pretty freaking heavy. Such a nice bucket with such a bad handle. Seachem please address this issue.
 
Smallblock;677857 wrote: REally Ralph the plastic handle has never snapped with you while your carrying the bucket? Your the only person I know then. There should be a disclaimer on that thing.


nope it never has.....gotcha.....

Edit: I'll be more careful then...
 
for real no exageration on my end, be carefull when you carry it. It will happen and you could really get hurt. I carry it by the sides now.
 
It doesnt really snap. The ends of the handle pops out of the holes made for it in the bucket.
 
Smallblock;677860 wrote: for real no exageration on my end, be carefull when you carry it. It will happen and you could really get hurt. I carry it by the sides now.


I don't and can't carry it far....but I hear ya!

Edit: well that's bs...they should fix that crap!
 
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