Jebo WP40 Powerhead - anyone using it?

[ddaddy2420]

Ripped Tide;845776 wrote: From my personal experience, when you use money from coral you've grown, or coral as a trading item, the wife will usually ease off.

I certainly didn't start with vortechs. After selling and trading frags, splurging a little bit on a pump doesn't really set you back. Different folks have different interests in this hobby.

There's no reason that a person on a strict budget should consider a vortech.

I agree 100% - I can already tell as time passes and I can sell stuff and make a little bit of money, I will be able to upgrade and get better stuff. I have a PayPal acct that is strictly saltwater, I put $50 in a month and whatever I sell goes in that acct. it's my own personal saltwater acct and anything I buy from it is fair game.

My wife is totally cool with it, and should the day come when I have a few thousand in it, who knows I might buy vortechs. Until then at the end of the day, I would rather have an improved skimmer or better lights than a more expensive pump. It's just where I am in the hobby is all. It's nothing personal against vortechs.


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[sinbad]

I am interested in a "unofficial" group buy if one happens.

 

[elfloyd]

Following this thread and the one on RC... For me it boils down to what you want from a product. I can afford the Vortex, and having wires outside the tank is nice. But I am also frugal with my money and look at all purchases from all sides with an eye on cost savings. (How many people do you know that bought a hot water heater from Amazon?). I enjoy taking a bit of a risk too!

I bought my LEDs from FS three years ago. They had an 18 month warranty that FS fully and quickly honored. I didn't see any warranty offered on the WP-40. If I make this purchase I'll go into it knowing two things from a financial standpoint: (1) Probably no warranty but good past experience from FS. (2) If I need to replace the WP-40s annually I break even over the cost of a Vortex... Perhaps even ahead if wet sides need to be replaced.

I want a power head to push water. These threads tell me the WP-40 and the MP-40 do this equally well.
I am not concerned about sequencing two units together.
I am not concerned about controlling flow with my Apex.
I would need to keep the Vortex for years before I would be comfortable with the cost spread.
I would be able to easily move onto the next power head innovation.
I am not concerned about the astistics of wires in the tank (and Vortex is the only option).

Just my two cents.

Larry

 

[ralph atl]

elFloyd;845822 wrote: Following this thread and the one on RC... For me it boils down to what you want from a product. I can afford the Vortex, and having wires outside the tank is nice. But I am also frugal with my money and look at all purchases from all sides with an eye on cost savings. (How many people do you know that bought a hot water heater from Amazon?). I enjoy taking a bit of a risk too!

I bought my LEDs from FS three years ago. They had an 18 month warranty that FS fully and quickly honored. I didn't see any warranty offered on the WP-40. If I make this purchase I'll go into it knowing two things from a financial standpoint: (1) Probably no warranty but good past experience from FS. (2) If I need to replace the WP-40s annually I break even over the cost of a Vortex... Perhaps even ahead if wet sides need to be replaced.

I want a power head to push water. These threads tell me the WP-40 and the MP-40 do this equally well.
I am not concerned about sequencing two units together.
I am not concerned about controlling flow with my Apex.
I would need to keep the Vortex for years before I would be comfortable with the cost spread.
I would be able to easily move onto the next power head innovation.
I am not concerned about the astistics of wires in the tank (and Vortex is the only option).

Just my two cents.

Larry

well then I guess they are NOT, by any means close to Vortechs.......

....and comparing them to Vortech's is the reason that Vortech owners are on here posting, lol.....

I, however, love my Vortechs (2, MP 40), and love the sync, the different modes, no wires, etc....

The best thing, however, IMHO, is their battery backups that give me piece of mind when we have a power outages or when a gfi trips......


On the other hand, it's great that there is another CHOICE of power heads for reef tank owners! I hope it is as advertised or better! Truly.






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[ralph atl]

<div class="gc_ifarem_title">Jebao WP-40 - YouTube</div>[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SZIyQDoXmY]


looks like a very powerful pump to me, albeit closer to Tunze style.

good luck!

 

[jayu]

I want to retract any statement I made about this being a knockoff vortech. I read the summation of the OP and was instantly reminded of a thread a few months ago about Chinese knockoff vortechs. This pump isn't that, AND after watching the video it doesn't SEEM like a bad product at that price. Depending on the setup (Frag Tank, QT, smaller display, mixing tank) I'd be inclined to give this a shot. However, what bothers me the most is build quality or lack thereof. If this company has track record of products that can be unsafe to use because of a lack build quality, I choose not to be the guinea pig. I see it now "stray voltage from Jebo pumps fried my tank".

Vortechs provide MUCH MUCH more besides "pushing water". EcoTech Marine and their Vortech pumps have a proven track record, If you can justify the expense, its well worth it.

 

[curtismaximus]

Vortechs provide MUCH MUCH more besides "pushing water".

Ok less risk (due to no cables in the tank) and ease of mind (due to Ecotech's Guarantee) but besides that how are they different? What is the MORE that they provide?

 

[jayu]

Curtismaximus;845902 wrote: Ok less risk (due to no cables in the tank) and ease of mind (due to Ecotech's Guarantee) but besides that how are they different? What is the MORE that they provide?

You just named two major factors that don't exist in many other products. In regards to exterior cables, no other product can provide that. So lets take that a step further and add that no heat gets transferred from pump to water column with vortechs. Six or so flow patterns pre loaded. Have a tank controller? Run all six as many times a day as you want. Push button feed and night cycle. Auto tune wave mode. Wireless integration between pumps (master/slave relationship) and Radion LED's. Push button on/off, indicator lights when there is a problem with pump. Low Profile design. Battery Backup enabled. Aesthetics, aesthetics, aesthetics. I'm tired of typing, but I could probably list a few more off the top of my head.

A fully loaded and base model car both get you from point A to B. However, one provides a lot more than the other, IMO.

 

[rhyerob]

Curtismaximus;845902 wrote: Ok less risk (due to no cables in the tank) and ease of mind (due to Ecotech's Guarantee) but besides that how are they different? What is the MORE that they provide?

I would like to start by saying I'm probably going to buy one to three of these...but since you asked.

First customer service. (2 points)
I bought my Vortechs second hand...the person before me Jerry rigged the controller. I called customer service...told them the truth...and they still fixed the problems and upgraded the driver for cheaper than I could've bought a new driver. Now what were mp40w are mp40wes. So, not only was the customer service the t!t$(for pumps I wasn't the original owner of) but they are upgradable and easy to work on.

Second Vortechs are 100% controllable from 0-100 within multiple modes. Making dialing in specific flow a breeze.
Jebo has six modes. That's it. Fast, medium, slow, and 3 types of nutrient export modes. No such thing as dialing in a Jebo.

Third design. No comparison.

Fourth...track record.

Fifth. Longevity. If my pump goes bad, I will always be able to get parts.

Sixth...American made.

Seventh...ability to sync with lighting (which I do not own because I haven't found a deal yet).

Eighth power consumption. Vortech=35watts used at full power. Jebo 40watts at full power.

Ninth. Footprint. Bar none Vortech is smaller.

Tenth. Battery backup for up to 15 hours on one back up. Can daisy chain backups for even longer times.

Eleventh. Vortech is Compatible with all controllers. Jebo is "in the works"

Twelfth. Vortech has less heat transmission because the friction of the motor is outside the tank.

Thirteenth. Litigation. Not saying you'll need it, but there a fat snowball's chance in hell you'll get anything out of China...Vortech's could be recalled for reimbursement.

I'm sure others could find more reasons but this is what I could muster up in fifteen minutes.

 

[ripped tide]

mysterybox;845840 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SZIyQDoXmY">Jebao WP-40 - YouTube</a>


looks like a very powerful pump to me, albeit closer to Tunze style.

good luck![/QUOTE]


Off subject: I award the guy in that video with the "Tackiest tank I've ever seen!"

 

[ralph atl]

Ripped Tide;845962 wrote: Off subject: I award the guy in that video with the "Tackiest tank I've ever seen!"

:up:

 

[ddaddy2420]

Wow this thread has turned out to be pretty long, but unfortunately has gotten way off topic for some. Looking back on it I wish I hadn't put in my original topic, "a potential replacement for Vortec". After all the research and people trying to compare it to vortech, the only real comparison to those would be to replace it for the volume of water it moves, after that obviously there are none. I mean heck, the thing looks exactly like my Tunze so if we must compare then compare with Tunze pumps from this point on. I really just wanted some feedback on anyone using this pump and what all the have been able to do with it so far. Let me repeat, I am interested in the Jebao WP40 and its uses and non-uses. I am NOT interested in the Vortech MP40, i have read and read ad naseum on the MP40 and I am well aware of how great of a pump, aside from how loud it is, that it actually is.

So back to my topic for the second time, if you have actually purchased the WP40 then post your results and what you think of it. Because from the sound of it, there are a lot of people here interested in this thing.

And as a side note, anybody know where to get a mock up of a old plane like that guy had in his tank, I am going for the Bermuda Triangle look similar to his lol.

 

[grouper therapy]

ddaddy2420;845999 wrote: Wow this thread has turned out to be pretty long, but unfortunately has gotten way off topic for some. Looking back on it I wish I hadn't put in my original topic, "a potential replacement for Vortec". After all the research and people trying to compare it to vortech, the only real comparison to those would be to replace it for the volume of water it moves, after that obviously there are none. I mean heck, the thing looks exactly like my Tunze so if we must compare then compare with Tunze pumps from this point on. I really just wanted some feedback on anyone using this pump and what all the have been able to do with it so far. Let me repeat, I am interested in the Jebao WP40 and its uses and non-uses. I am NOT interested in the Vortech MP40, i have read and read ad naseum on the MP40 and I am well aware of how great of a pump, aside from how loud it is, that it actually is.

So back to my topic for the second time, if you have actually purchased the WP40 then post your results and what you think of it. Because from the sound of it, there are a lot of people here interested in this thing.


And as a side note, <u>anybody know where to get a mock up of a old plane like that guy had in his tank,</u> I am going for the Bermuda Triangle look similar to his lol.

You could use some Vortech wet sides instead.

 

[curtismaximus]

If we get an UGB going I want one. If we wait till the WP25's come out I will take two!

Edit: If we get an UGB going I want one. If we wait till the WP25's come out I will take two!

Edit: If we get an UGB going I want one. If we wait till the WP25's come out I will take two!

 

[ddaddy2420]

PM me if you are interested in the group buy, let me know which one you want and how many. I am keeping a running tally on an excel spreadsheet and will let you all know once we have enough people.

 

[ddaddy2420]

rdnelson99;845053 wrote: This appears to be developing into an unofficial group buy. If so, it needs to be done properly please. A new thread would have to be created in the lounge by the person handling the group buy. The title must say "Unofficial Group Buy". In the thread body you must post the pricing structure and shipping costs as well as who it is being purchased from.


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Seeing as I have a running list, i am going to start an unofficial group buy in the lounge so we can keep this thread going and not run the risk of it being closed, lots of good info here. I will post everything i have so far so check it out and be sure I have your name and what you want.

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rdnelson99;845053 wrote: This appears to be developing into an unofficial group buy. If so, it needs to be done properly please. A new thread would have to be created in the lounge by the person handling the group buy. The title must say "Unofficial Group Buy". In the thread body you must post the pricing structure and shipping costs as well as who it is being purchased from.


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Seeing as I have a running list, i am going to start an unofficial group buy in the lounge so we can keep this thread going and not run the risk of it being closed, lots of good info here. I will post everything i have so far so check it out and be sure I have your name and what you want.

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[mdaya1]

What happen to a possible group buy?


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[curtismaximus]

Just wanted to throw this out there to everyone that thinks this thing is uncontrollable!
Eh Hem (Vortech guys!) :deadhorse:

On RC today they finally cracked the code with these suckers and they are controllable in any way imaginable:yay:. Speed, Sync mode(between multiple pumps),Wave mode or Random Mode, On Off, Timers, with your lights?(ridiculous!), With your child's nap times, your work schedule, Whatever!

They (ReefAngel) are in the process of producing the wire harness to make this possible. It looks like it can be done with only the Apex and ReefAngel controllers right now.

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[curtismaximus]

mdaya1;846663 wrote: What happen to a possible group buy?


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It has been deleted momentarily. Might be back on once more details are established.

Also wanted to share this vid for everyone. :up:

 

[johniii]

Curtismaximus;846665 wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there to everyone that thinks this thing is uncontrollable!
Eh Hem (Vortech guys!) :deadhorse:

On RC today they finally cracked the code with these suckers and they are controllable in any way imaginable:yay:. Speed, Sync mode(between multiple pumps),Wave mode or Random Mode, On Off, Timers, with your lights?(ridiculous!), With your child's nap times, your work schedule, Whatever!

They (ReefAngel) are in the process of producing the wire harness to make this possible. It looks like it can be done with only the Apex and ReefAngel controllers right now.

Edit:

Once Roberto gets the cable ready it will work on any 0-10v analog or pwm source. His cable will convert either source.

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